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1 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | bslinker | 37606 | ||
Believing and faith go hand in hand. Mark 16:16 "He who believes and is baptized will be saved, but he who does not believe will be condemned" So there HAS to be a belief system inside you to be baptized, otherwise baptism will do you no good. Belief has to come first. The writer above has it correct by quoting Rom 3:28, but on the flip-side of the coin, James 2:24 says EXPLICITLY that "... a man is justified by works and not by faith alone" There is a huge difference between being justified by faith and being justified by faith ALONE. Use this analogy when making a cake for example: You can say that "you can make a cake by using cake mix" which is true. But can you say "you can bake a cake by using cake mix only"? Of course not, you need an oven, flour, water, etc.... to make that cake. But its a true statement that you can make a cake by using cake mix, but its not true to say that you can make a cake by using cake mix only. It cannot be done. I believe we can understand that simple analogy. The same goes for baptism. We are saved by baptism and not by baptism only. We are saved by faith but not by faith only. We are saved by confession (Rom 10:10) but not by confession only. We are saved by repentence (Acts 2:38) but not by repentence only. So its the combination of all these together that saves us. It is correct as the above writer said that its not water that saves us, but it is the obedience to God that does. Think of the story of Naaman in 2 Kings 5 where Naaman was a leper. He wanted to be healed of his leprosy. He was told by the man of God to go to the Jordan river and dip 7 times to be cleansed. Naaman question that like people question baptism today, "why do I have to be baptized?" why can't I just believe?". Naaman questioned it too! "Whats wrong with the rivers of Damascus?" he asked. But it wasn't til he went to the Jordan River and dipped 7 times that he was cleansed. Was it something in the water? Not at all. It was OBEDIENCE. It was the faith and the belief that cleansed him, not the water. Do you think that he would have cleansed if just dipped once or twice? Not at all, but he did what was asked of him to be cleansed, he obeyed it, and believed that doing what he was told would cleanse him and he it did. I hope this helps in trying to make sense of the "baptism" issue. | ||||||
2 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | imuvhim | 79193 | ||
Mark 16:16 doesn't say that you are saved before baptism, does it? It makes sense that belief comes before baptism, but that's not all or Jesus wouldn't have said baptism too. I don't want to be responsible for taking away from the words of Jesus. In Christian love, imuvhim |
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3 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 79244 | ||
Other OLD post ... Mark 16:16 does say that you are saved before baptism ... when it says "he who has disbelieved shall be condemned" ... it does not say "he who has believed and has not been baptized shall be condemned". Moreover, Acts 10:44-48 proves that salvation was before water baptism, as does Acts 2:38. Read my posts for these passages. |
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4 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | St.Jaden | 79283 | ||
Baptism goes hand and hand with salvation, baptism is the sharing of Christ death Rom 6 chapter, so if we share in Christ death we shall also share in his resurrection, so baptism is very important, remember in 1 John there are 3 witnesses on Earth the Spirit, the water, the blood and all of these agree, neither one is to be treated a less important, which on was greater Christ death, his burial or his resurrection, all were of equal importance. God bless | ||||||
5 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 79287 | ||
Romans 6 is not about water baptism, but of being baptized by the Holy Spirit. | ||||||