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1 | What about the other verses on salvation | Rom 10:9 | LovestheLord | 72546 | ||
What about the other verses on salvation? Aren't you leaving some things out. Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. Acts 2:39 Repent and be baptized EVERY ONE OF YOU, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Believe, repent, confess Christ and be baptized. Thanks for your input. |
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2 | What about the other verses on salvation | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 73876 | ||
Greetings, The verses you reference are important verses and they should not be debated away. The way some people look at salvation passages is to pick some and ignore others. We who believe that salvation comes at the moment of baptism through faith in Christ also believe that "whoever believe in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." We who believe that to be saved, you must "arise and be baptized and wash away thy sins" see no conflict with being "saved by grace through faith." [It is therefore important that the person being baptized actually have faith in God's promises, i.e. not an infant] It is not accurate to, because passages seem to contradict, boil everything down to the lowest common denominator and consequently nullify some very important teaching on baptism: namely, the purpose of baptism. God assigns purpose. When God tells us WHY to partake of the Lord's Supper, then we have no right to make it into something else. When God gives a purpose for singing--to worship, praise, etc--, it is wrong to turn it into entertainment [what is holy is holy and not to be used for vain entertainment]. And when God assigns to baptism the purpose of uniting us with Christ into His burial and His death, no man has a right to redefine it as "an outward sign of an inward grace." Keep the faith, man. Don't give telling the truth. I appreciate you. Good day. |
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3 | Go to Hell after receiving Holy Spirit? | Rom 10:9 | beva | 74404 | ||
Greetings disciplerami, I'm hoping you can help me with an answer to this question. If I read your posts correctly it appears that you believe that salvation occurs at the moment of baptism. I accepted Christ and was not baptised until 3 months later. Immediately upon accepting Christ I received the Holy Spirit. How do I know? I was delivered from the desire to sin among other things:-) I am absolutely convinced that I received the Holy Spirit upon accepting Christ. My question is: If I died in that 3 month period before being baptised, would I have gone to Hell? | ||||||
4 | Go to Hell after receiving Holy Spirit? | Rom 10:9 | Robert Nicholson | 74418 | ||
Beva: Please forgive me for interjecting these thoughts. I agree that the moment we believe we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit and receive eternal life. In John 3:6 Jesus made it clear that we are born of the Spirit or born from above. "God hath sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts" (2 Cor. 1:21) At that moment we became a new creature in Christ (2 Cor. 5:17). The moment we are saved we are baptised by the Holy Spirit into the church which is his body."For by One Spirit are we all baptised into one body..." 1 Cor. 12:13. We notice that what we have received is all a work of God through our Lord Jesus Christ. This change which he makes within our hearts is permananent and we can accept his promise "I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish..." (John 10:28) In John 5:24 the Lord Jesus shows that the new birth is instanious and that all people are divided into 2 groups: Those who have life or those who have not life. Listen to these words: "Truly, Truly, I say unto you, he that heareth my Word and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation (judgment); but is passed from death unto life"(John 5:24) When we rest by faith on the work of our Lord Jesus Christ on the cross, a) We pass from death unto life and we are promised that "we shall not come into judgment". The moment we are in Christ we are safe eternally any other conclusion is an insult to the work of Christ. Why then do we get baptized? 1. Because the Lord Jesus commanded it. In Acts2:41 we read "And they that gladly received his word" This means they were saved "were baptised". In other words we are baptized after we are saved as an act of obedience unto Christ. Our water baptism is an outward picture of what has happened within. In Acts 11 Peter discussed what happened as he preached and points out that those who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ were given the Holy Spirit within: "I as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them as on us at the beginning. Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Forasmuch then as God gave the like gift as he did unto us who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; What was I, that I should withstand God?" (Acts 11: 15-17) The Ethiopian Eunuch is another example of a man who was born again before he was baptized. Consider the order: 1. God was working on the man's heart and asked Philip to go to him in the desert. He could not understand Isaiah 53. Philip began at the same passage to preach unto him Jesus. 2. As they travelled along them came to water. The man asked Philip "What doth hinder me to be baptized? Philip said "If thou believest with all thine heart, thous mayest. And he answered "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God". The man was already born again at this point, obviously Philip had preached that a believer should be baptized after conversion. 3. He and Philip went down into the water and he was baptized. The question you originally asked, could a person be lost should they die, if they were born again, and indwelt by the Holy Spirit of God but were not baptized. The words of Jesus from John 5:24 answer this "Hath everlasting life and shall not come into condemnation" Robert |
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5 | Go to Hell after receiving Holy Spirit? | Rom 10:9 | beva | 74420 | ||
Amen Brother Robert. Well said! And no need to apologize for interjecting your thoughts. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. I pray that our brother disciplerami agrees. I posted the question to him in the hopes that he might reconsider his position. God Bless. --beva |
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