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1 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | Hank | 90677 | ||
Pastor Floyd: Your who's who list reads more like the people whose teaching I'd avoid than it does spiritual counselors I'd trust. Your statement to the effect that if the ideas you're trying to push are good enough for these people they're good enough for you says nothing about whether they have any biblical foundation. It's more a case of the blind leading the blind than anything else. .... Who or what gives you the "right" (as you claim) to be healed? What other "rights" do we fallen, depraved sinners have? What other rights, besides the rights to be healed and to be rich, can we name and claim of the holy and righteous God of all that is? ..... Show me one verse in Scripture that teaches that Jesus went to the cross for our physical healing. Or so that we can be financially prosperous. Just one. Notice I say PHYSICAL healing -- that's what you have been stressing, isn't it? Stressing physical healing and personal prosperity. Whatever happened to the real healing that Jesus accomplished on the cross -- the spiritual healing? Do you have any room left in your man-centered theology for that? "By His stripes we are healed" is about spiritual healing from the ravages of sin. It never had anything to do with the "healing" carnivals that come to town with all the glitter and dazzle of a three-ring circus -- and with just as many clowns. --Hank | ||||||
2 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | Elijah_Jones | 90807 | ||
----quote------------ Show me one verse in Scripture that teaches that Jesus went to the cross for our physical healing. ------------endquote--------------------- Isaiah 53:5 By his stripes we are healed or another version says By his wounds we are healed That is one.. there are a number of others, actually. Taken literally, (and there isn't any other way to take it, unless you are trying to change the meaning of the verse intentionally) it means he suffered physical wounding that we might be physically healed. |
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3 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | Hank | 90827 | ||
Elijah_Jones: "Physical healing" is not the proper exegesis of Isaiah 53:5. This is not what Isaiah was talking about and the apostle Peter confirms this. The stripe (the noun is singular in the Hebrew) that caused Jesus' death has brought salvation (spiritual healing) to those for whose sins He died. Peter confirms this: "who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we having died to sins, might live for righteousness -- by whose stripes you were healed (cf. Isaiah 53:5). For you were like sheep going astray (cf. Isaiah 53:6), but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls." (1 Peter 2:24,24). --Hank | ||||||
4 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | Elijah_Jones | 90882 | ||
God has purchased our salvation.. which is not spiritual healing, but rather.. spiritual resurrection. Healing is completely diffent than spiritual resurrection. Lazarus was not healed, but raised from the dead. Lazarus's resurrection is a beautiful prophetic foreshadowing of every believers resurrection of spiritual regeneration. This is my understanding on the matter. You can change the literal meaning of those verses to fit a cessasionist viewpoint, but I personally believe that is quite a stretch. Literally it is saying we are both spiritual raised from the dead with Christ and bodily healed by his willingness to take on our curse of the flesh through his punishment prior to his death. It was the wounding of his body that accomplished taking on our healing. It was his death and resurrection that bought us eternal spiritual life. And taken with the very numerous quotes by Jesus on the believer's authority over sickness, I find it hard to believe that anyone would deny that the bible promises us divine healing as believers. This is my understanding on the matter, and if we disagree.. well then, we disagree. Nonetheless, the verses can CERTAINLY be interpreted to mean exactly what they say, and that is that Christ purchased our healing by taking on physical wounds. Physical wounds for physical sickness.. spiritual resurrection for our resurrection (Col 2:12, Eph 2:4-6, Col 3:1, and many other such verses) As I have said before, this is what I believe the Scripture states very clearly, but I am willing to admit that I may be wrong. It is always important that where sincere and devoted followers of Christ who love his Word disagree, it is important to adopt an attitude of humility and be willing to be corrected. I just don't see any scriptures that cause me to doubt the validity of divine healing. Do you have any scripture to back up your position that healing is NOT provided for through Christ's and the Holy Spirit's work for us? |
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