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1 | Is "slain in the Spirit" biblical? | Matt 16:6 | flinkywood | 90515 | ||
Justme, funny you should mention Fred Price. I've been following this string and I think you are onto something. I went several times to Fred Price's faith dome after hearing rumors of healings within. People were prone to being slain during F.P's services, which to my eye looked like hypnosis show histrionics. F.P's ministry also has a definite scent of "If it ain't happening for you, maybe you ain't happening for it." I took my son there in hopes of a healing. F.P. prayed over him, then informed me that my boy's healing would progress as my faith grew. That annoyed me, and I've since discovered the falsity of that presumption. During one sermon he stated "Christians aren't supposed to suffer," and cited Saint Stephen's falling asleep as evidence for this sweeping claim. Thing is, his congregation eats it up. I don't doubt that many of his flock are saved, but what a diet they're on. Colin |
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2 | Is "slain in the Spirit" biblical? | Matt 16:6 | justme | 90681 | ||
FinkyWood: Friend rat poison is 99 percent real food. Yet it is lethal enough to kill. The responses given to by two other forum people are into word of faith big time. You rejected this bad theology because the Holy Spirit gave you insight that is genuine rat poison. There is no place anywhere in Scripture showing this phoney slain in the spirit is ever Biblical. These anti Christ false teachers are a stench on the name of Jesus Christ. I can't say it strong enough how dangeruos this false word of faith movement is! Go to equip.org and there you can read exactly what these men said. Some have even had the gaul to say we can order God what todo, that God is our severnt! I pray you resist being begiled into this rat poison false religion. Christian it is not!!! Blessings. justme |
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3 | Is "slain in the Spirit" biblical? | Matt 16:6 | flinkywood | 90704 | ||
Justme, even so, I got saved in a church like that. Six months later, they kicked me out. What kind of church was it? I don't know, but during one "teaching" on the crucifixion, our pastor raised his arms and said, "The Holy Spirit just told me there were two men on each side of Jesus, not one." No one objected; it's thrilling to be around a guy like that. The thrill waned, however, and soon after, I was booted from the the church for challenging this pastor on a personal point. He told me furiously that I had a "rebellious spirit." Again, no one objected, and the congregation responded as if I were a contagion. (This pastor, by the way, was a great admirer of Price). Being young in faith, it hit me hard, but I met good people who steered me into the bible, where we're all supposed to be. These churches you describe share 2 distict characteristics. 1) The pastor is king. 2) Theology trumps love. In the former, the charismatic pastor develops an unhealthy lock on the hearts and minds of his flock. You hear, "Pastor says" versus "Jesus says," and churchmembers become defensive when you question their beliefs, nasty when you press them (been there, briefly, myself). They may fire scripture at you, typically divorced from context (or altered, as with the JW's) and shun you when you don't yield. This is a great danger to our faith and goes against the heart of Jesus. In the latter, a more subtle clouding of the mind occurs as people begin to see others through the dark glass of theology rather than the clear glass of empathetic love. This is hard to say, but I think very true. Remember Job's friends? Didn't they blast away at his faith, then when Job argued back, turn nasty? Theology trumped love. There are friends like these within this forum. Re. your last statement, the first pastor I mentioned called it a "commanded blessing," i.e. "telling God what to do." There is an actual term for it. Colin. |
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