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1 | Salvation: Instantaneous, progressive? | Ps 68:19 | Makarios | 28551 | ||
Greetings Randy, Yes, I believe that sanctification is part of our overall salvation, and I believe that sanctification is not finished until we are in the presence of the Lord. However, I disagree with you when you say that "we ARE saved daily!".. Are you saying that we are to be born again and again and again and again??? I believe that all of the Scripture that you have quoted are excellent references to the believer's responsibility to be actively in pursuit of obedience to Christ in the process of sanctification. And you have most graciously included some of the characteristics that we must "model after" while pursuing the obedience of Christ. :-) Also, you have left one of those references out.. Luke 9:23 "Then He said to them all, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me." [NKJV] But if you are saying that "we ARE saved daily!" and contending that we re-crucify Christ (Heb. 6:6) each and every day, then I believe that you are in error here. Blessings to you, Nolan |
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2 | Salvation: Instantaneous, progressive? | Ps 68:19 | charis | 28568 | ||
Dear Nolan, Greetings in the name of Jesus! I am not saying that we are born again and again. I am not saying that we re-crucify Jesus. Both of those statements imply that we lose are salvation and are in need of another jolt of salvation juice, and I have never said anything of the sort. I have always been a champion of NOT losing salvation, so these statements are far from applicable to my opinion. (not contention:-)) I am saying (again) that I believe that sanctification and glorification are part and parcel of our salvation experience, our still-progressing knowledge of God, and the God-initiated relationship we have with Him to the fulfilling of His purposes. You are saying that salvation is our justification experience, that leads to sanctification, that leads to glorification. Frankly, that doesn't sound too different from what I have been saying all along. (except that you insist on using the word instantaneous) :-) Friend Nolan, why do you keep saying that I am saying that we are born again and again, saved again and again? I do not believe in several tiers of salvation, nor do I believe in a flip-flop relationship with God based on our works. Peace and joy in Christ Jesus, charis |
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