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1 | Baptism not necessary to be saved | Acts | 4givn | 92469 | ||
Thank you for your input, but I believe you are in error concerning baptism. The scripture reference you gave "unless one is born of water"..., is that John 3:5? If so, then the context in which it is given is clearly referring to being born of water as being born a natural birth (when the water breaks). Look at the very next verse: "Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit." Also, if we are to believe Eph 2:8,9, then there is absolutely nothing we can do to determine our salvation that is a "work". And getting baptised, although one of only two ordinances of the church and certainly important, does not in any way have any saving power. If it did, and a person had to do it in order to be saved, then it would become a "work" (something you have to "do"). Salvation is a "gift". If you add any conditions to it, it is no longer a gift. You cited: Rom 6:1-6 - Are you familiar with 1 Cor 10:2? "They were all baptised into Moses...". The Romans passage you cited is similar to this one in that it is "figuratively" speaking. Acts 2:38 - Peter is telling these Jews to get saved. He is telling them if they get saved they will be indwelt by the Holy Spirit. (vs. 41 says "Those who accepted his message were baptised...". Now, which came first, the "acceptance" of the message or the baptism? To "accept" the message is to "believe". John 5:24 that says "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life". In this verse there is no mention of having to be baptised. I know you probably belong to a denomination that teaches what you have said, and I'm sure you are fairly convinced that what you believe is true. But please consider what I have said, and then ask the Lord to confirm or reject what I have said. |
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2 | Baptism not necessary to be saved | Acts | 4givn | 92922 | ||
I agree to disagree. | ||||||
3 | Baptism not necessary to be saved | Acts | wwwjohn1423ministriesorg | 108530 | ||
You are in Error with all due respect sir. Believing IN Jesus means you are a you believe Christ and were baptized into His body(1st Corinthians 12:13 and Mark 16:16. Baptism is not a work from man but a work from God according to Luke 7:30, Colossians 2:12, and Titus 3:5). Now let us look at the text of John 3:1-21 which is Jesus teaching Nicodemus how tho be saved. John 3:2 Nicodemus declares "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him". Jesus says: "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is BORN AGAIN(regeneration), he cannot see the kingdom of God". Jesus here is cleary speaking of regeneration or being reborn spiritually. Is Jesus so dumb to teach Nicodemus who was born of flesh years ago that he needs to have a "vaginal birth". Jesus is not teaching about anything physical or prenatal. Nicodemus does not get it yet either by asking: "How can a MAN be BORN when HE is old"? Nicodemus is asking this question because he does not understand that Jesus is teaching him about spiritual REBIRTH for regeneration, remission of sins, and reception of the Holy Spirit. Jesus can see that Nicodemus does not understand so Jesus breaks it down in laymens terms by teaching: "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, HE cannot enter the kingdom of God". Notice Jesus goes masculine here by saying HE. Jesus is cleary implying by saying HE that the man already was generated of flesh. A man does not come from the womb a MAN but is born of flesh as a baby so again Jesus is not teaching of anything prenatal or physical. Also the scriptures do not contradict each other because "It is impossible for God to lie"(Hebrews 6:18 and Titus 1:2). Jesus is also a prophet (Acts 3:22,23) who is phrophesying the way of salvation through Himself and also interpreting Acts 2:38 and Titus 3:5 which was taught later by brother Luke and Paul. Baptism into Christ Jesus for remission of sins and the Holy Spirit come together that is why Jesus teaches being "born of water and Spirit". They are one in the same. They are not two different events. You go down into the water without the Spirit but come out of the water regenerated by the Holy Spirit. John 3:5 is not talking about being born of flesh or a vaginal birth and again Jesus confirms this in John 3:6 thus saith the Lord. |
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4 | Is baptism required for salvation? | Acts | Searcher56 | 108580 | ||
Are you saying that baptism is required for salvation? | ||||||
5 | Is baptism required for salvation? | Acts | Mommapbs | 108605 | ||
Hi Searcher! I "assume" that you have checked out this author's web site . . . he presents his theology there. FYI mommapbs |
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