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1 | Have we been resisting the holy spirit? | 1 Cor 14:22 | leolipwee | 51727 | ||
Thanx Tim, the references are so dear to me. just a few notes, can you help to see whether i got my perspective right: 1) Is. 63:10 - the Holy Spirit, not yet revealed to the people, could only have recognised GOD's spirit (that HE is Holy). however, within the context, it is not so known which spirit is Isaiah referring to. we can only guess. 4) Acts 1:2 - JESUS too relied on the Holy Spirit while in His walk on mortal world. what He had done was a perfect example of what we should be doing- relying on the Holy Spirit to guide us regarding GOD's will. 7) Acts 7:51 - in the context of the passage, He was resisted by unbelievers if i am not wrong, not believers. 9) Acts 15:28 - the line 'when it seemed good to the Holy Spirit' did not indicated that the Holy Spirit made the decisions. the Holy Spirit gave witness that it 'seemed' good. But the decision makers were the people in the council, namely Peter, Barnabas, Paul, James, Simon, Barsabas, Silas and other unnamed apostles and elders as well as the writer of Acts. but noticed why it 'seemed' good? Doesn't it tell you that the writer too was unsure that it was 'really' good? in fact, many of the people who made the decision have yet to realise the fullness of GOD's grace (Jewish tradition holds as you would have noticed from the letter that they wrote). yet the Bible is honest to record such instances. that's also why the Bible is so believable for me. :) 2) Mk. 13:11 - see below. 3) Lk. 12:12 - see below. 5) Acts 5:3 - see below. 6) Acts 5:32 - see below. 8) Acts 9:31 - see below. 10) Acts 16:6 - see below. 11) Acts 20:23 - see below. 12) Acts 20:28 - see below. 13) Rom. 15:16 - see below. 14) 2 Tim. 1:14 - see below. 15) Heb. 9:8 - see below. 16) Heb. 10:15 - see below. 17) 2 Pet. 1:21 - see below. these passages i have read and (think i)understand. the key question is that why can this be only be done by a 'Person' and not 'Spirit'? i can understand now that the Holy Spirit is referred to with the masculine pronoun 'He'. But i have yet still to understand why is the Holy Spirit a 'Person'? the way i interpretted the Scriptures you have listed is that the Holy Spirit is a 'Spirit', as it has been recorded. i don't remember an occurance where it is recorded that the Holy Spirit is a Holy 'Person'. why then couldn't it be that the Holy Spirit, as a 'Spirit' sent by GOD, can perform the points which you have listed? why must He be refered to as a 'Person' then? the Holy Spirit that i know of (the reason why GOD sent Him is as listed in John 16:7-15), can give us help, comfort, heal, personal edification, the power to speak in tongues, to have knowledge, teachings, revelations, as well as prophesies (as shown thoughout 1 Corinthian 12 and throughout your listed points), from our Abba FATHER GOD, via inner promptings, prophetic utterance from prophets, external circumstances, or by manifestation. to me, being a 'Spirit' and being a 'Person' has a difference. to me, saying that the Holy Spirit is a 'Person' brings Him down to our level. we don't say that angels can be refered to as a 'Person' too, do we? to me, the Holy Spirit is not the third 'Person' in the Trinity but the third 'Spirit'. are there any records in the Bible then, that states but not imply that the Holy Spirit is a 'Person'? if there isn't, why do many keep saying that He is one then? why not leave the word as it is, as the 'Holy Spirit', as a 'Spirit'? i hope that i do not sound too stubborn. its just that i, being young in my walk with JESUS, have yet to aquire the right teachings. i am still learning to walk. :) once again, thank you, my brother in Christ. leolipwee |
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2 | Have we been resisting the holy spirit? | 1 Cor 14:22 | Morant61 | 51729 | ||
Greetings Leolipwee! Thanks for the response my friend! Let me ask a quick question so that I can clarify for myself where you are coming from: Do you believe that the Father and the Son are both Persons? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Have we been resisting the holy spirit? | 1 Cor 14:22 | leolipwee | 51732 | ||
Hi Tim, i believe that the Son is a person, but i have yet to recieve teachings about my Abba FATHER GOD as a person. however i read before that He used to walk with Adam and Eve, chat with Abraham (Abram) and wrestled with Israel (Jacob). so i believe i see my FATHER in Heaven as a person. does that help you to see where i am from? :) leolipwee |
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4 | Have we been resisting the holy spirit? | 1 Cor 14:22 | Morant61 | 51733 | ||
Greetings Leolipwee! Thanks! Yes, that helps me to understand! In theology, the term 'Person' is used to describe the members of the Godhead. Obviously, God is not like us in that He is not limited to the physical or material. So, the term 'Person' may be a little confusing. However, what the term is trying to convey is simply that each member of the Trinity is a thinking, feeling, relating Being, not simply a natural force. For instance, electricity is a force, but it does not feel, think, or relate. It simply is! The Holy Spirit is not simply a force. He is aware. He feels. He works. He comforts, ect.... This is what I was refering to in my previous post with the Scriptures I cited. I hope this helps my friend! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Have we been resisting the holy spirit? | 1 Cor 14:22 | leolipwee | 51734 | ||
Thanx Tim! i finally understand why the term 'Person' was used. i believe that each member of the Trinity is a thinking, feeling, relating Being, not simply a natural force too, just that i refer the Holy Spirit as a 'Spirit' and not a 'Person' because i was not able to find any references to text that indicates clearly that the Holy Spirit is a 'Person'. and because i did not find the text references that you have given me on the previous post, i did not know how to reference to the Holy Spirit (usually referring as "it"). as such, there were many confusion that people think that i do not believe that the Holy Spirit is not simply a force, but one of awareness, feelings, capable of works, ... etc helped me you did! :) but can you tell me how was my answer useful in telling you where i am from? or rather can you tell me where you think i am from? leolipwee |
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6 | Have we been resisting the holy spirit? | 1 Cor 14:22 | Morant61 | 51737 | ||
Greetings Leolipwee! I'm glad it helped! Your answer indicated to me that you did believe that members of the Trinity were Beings, not just forces, but that you were simply uncomfortable with the term 'Person'. I thought that might be the case, but I had to check! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Have we been resisting the holy spirit? | 1 Cor 14:22 | leolipwee | 51738 | ||
thanx Tim, you are right, i am not comfortable referring the Holy Spirit as a 'Person' but its because the Bible did not clearly indicate so. if the Bible says so, then it is so. for me who is so young in his walk with JESUS, its the only physical/tangible and undisputable Word of GOD that i can firmly hold on to. i pray that the promised blessings in the Bible will chase after you as it is for others believing JESUS as their saviour. i shall continue my walk then. Shalom to you my brother in Christ leolipwee |
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