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1 | Who, besides the elect of God,are saved? | Rom 10:9 | EdB | 74811 | ||
John “God calls for all men everywhere to repent and to place their faith in Christ alone as their hope for eternal life. No one will be able to charge God with not giving them an opportunity, for his law is written on their hearts. The problem is that unless God changes those wicked hearts, they will continue to hate Him and His Son.” John that is same as saying of a parent calls each child to be careful around fire. That no one could ever accuse them of not warning their children of the danger of fire, but yet the parent gave the warning out of ear shot for some of the children. I have heard gibberish make more sense. God won’t let you go to damnation without warning you but you won’t hear unless God elects you to listen. In effect God’s talking to those he made deaf. To me that would be a waste of time. I would think it would be a waste of God’s time also. Nonsense! EdB |
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2 | Who, besides the elect of God,are saved? | Rom 10:9 | John Reformed | 74825 | ||
Dear Ed, Do you think that fallen man has a spark of good in him,and if he can just be made to see the truth, that spark will set a blaze of faith in his heart? The reason I ask is because you always appeal to a situation where a man wants to be saved but cannot if he is not elect. You then use this scenario to refute election. But the sad truth is that all men do know the truth but "suppress it in unrighteousness". They want no part of it. That is why I believe they must be born again in order to desire Christ and His truth concerning the gospel. Rom 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. John |
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3 | Who, besides the elect of God,are saved? | Rom 10:9 | EdB | 74839 | ||
John You keep ignoring the basic truth in John 3:16 for God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believed in Him would not perish. All you words, all your proof text fail to prove that is not true. I know you want to apply selective reasoning and transform world to elect, and belief in to gospel understanding. But that is not what the passage says. That is not what happened on the cross. That is not what happened to Saul on the road to Damacus Now unless you can prove world means elect, and belief means knowledge of the gospel you really have nothing more to say. Or so imbedded in your belief you can't read a basic truth such as John 3:16 without applying meanings that aren't there. EdB |
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4 | Who, besides the elect of God,are saved? | Rom 10:9 | Hank | 74841 | ||
In a post entered only moments ago to Kaydulce, a new believer, I felt impelled to advise this new babe in Christ against using this forum. I cited what I believe are cogent reasons, chief of which is the divisiveness incurred when some users who profess to be seasoned believers can't quote John 3:16 without adding a Calvinist footnote that says, in effect, that "world" does not really mean world, that "whoever" does not really mean whoever but means a chosen few, the "elect." The Calvin drum beats on, but the bald fact is that not every Christian marches to Calvin's drum beat. In spite of Lockman's discouragement of harping on divisive doctrinal orientations, the beat goes on. I'm more and more inclined to lean toward historan Will Durant's assessment of John Calvin when he said, "We shall always find it hard to love the man who darkened the human soul with the most absurd and blasphemous conception of God in all the long and honored history of nonsense." (Will Durant, "The Reformation" - New York: Simon and Schuster, 1957, p. 490) --Hank | ||||||
5 | Who, besides the elect of God,are saved? | Rom 10:9 | Reformer Joe | 74868 | ||
Why would you quote Durant as an authority on anything theological? He clearly portrayed himself in his writings to be what John MacArthur (someone whose teaching ministry you have respected in the past, despite him being one of "my kind") would unreservedly refer to as a "Christ-hater." By all the available evidence he himself provided, Durant will be facing nothing but God's wrath for all eternity. So why would you ever consider him an authority on any saint of God? Secondly, do you not see how you posting this quote is divisive in itself? "If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless." --James 1:26 --Joe! |
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