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1 | how to be saved | Rom 10:9 | John Reformed | 74495 | ||
Dear Brian, Full blown pelagianism was refuted by Augustine and has been considered gross error by calvinists and arminians alike. Consider the following verses: ROM 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. 17 FOR IF ONE MAN'S offence death reigned by ONE; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by ONE, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of ONE judgment came upon ALL men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by ONE man's disobedience MANY were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 1CO 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. The bible teaches that you are either "in Adam" or "in Christ". Adam's sin is imputed to all who are born into this world " "For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many." John Reformed |
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2 | how to be saved | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 74644 | ||
More on Pelagianism: From Augustine's writing: CHAP. 6 [IV.]--GOD'S GRACE TO BE MAINTAINED AGAINST THE PELAGIANS; THE PELAGIAN HERESY NOT AN OLD ONE. It is, however, to be feared lest all these and similar testimonies of Holy Scripture (and undoubtedly there are a great many of them), in the maintenance of free will, be understood in such a way as to leave no room for God's assistance and grace in leading a godly life and a good conversation, to which the eternal reward is due; and lest poor wretched man, when he leads a good life and performs good works (or rather thinks that he leads a good life and performs good works), should dare to glory in himself and not m the Lord, and to put his hope of righteous living in himself alone; so as to be followed by the prophet Jeremiah's malediction when he says, "Cursed is the man who has hope in man, and maketh strong the flesh of his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord." Understand, my brethren, I pray you, this passage of the prophet. Because the prophet did not say, "Cursed is the man who has hope in his own self," it might seem to some that the passage, "Cursed is the man who has hope in man," was spoken to prevent man having hope in any other man but himself. In order, therefore, to show that his admonition to man was not to have hope in himself, after saying, "Cursed is the man who has hope in man," he immediately added, "And maketh strong the flesh of his arm." He used the word "arm" to designate power in operation. By the term "flesh," however, must be understood human frailty. And therefore he makes strong the flesh of his arm who supposes that a power which is frail and weak (that is, human) is sufficient for him to perform good works, and therefore puts not his hope in God for help. This is the reason why he subjoined the further clause, "And whose heart departeth from the Lord." Of this character is the Pelagian heresy, which is not an ancient one, but has only lately come into existence. Against this system of error there was first a good deal of discussion; then, as the ultimate resource, it was referred to sundry episcopal councils, the proceedings of which, not, indeed, in every instance, but in some, I have despatched to you for your perusal. In order, then, to our performance of good works, let us not have hope in man, making strong the flesh of our arm; nor let our heart ever depart from the Lord, but let it say to him," Be Thou my helper; forsake me not, nor despise me, O God of my salvation." IF I UNDERSTAND PELAGIAN FROM AUGUSTINE'S RESPONSE TO IT, I DISAGREE WITH PELAGIAN. I gather than 'full-blown' Pelagianism means that one credits himself for his salvation that he has in Jesus Christ. See what I mean, pigeon-holing and sticking names on people isn't fair or Christian. I have said nothing compared to 'full-blown' Pelagianism. God gets the glory for my salvation, I take none of the credit because my WORKS are as filthy rags. But woe to me if I don't have the works that are in keeping with repetance. FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD, but WORKS WITHOUT FAITH IS ALSO DEAD. Good day. |
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