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1 | how to be saved | Rom 10:9 | John Reformed | 73838 | ||
Dear disciplerami, What is your definition of free will? Once I know your meaning it will be much easier to answer your question. John |
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2 | how to be saved | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 74355 | ||
"choose ye this day whom you will serve." The right to choose, a gift from God. Anything less makes faith, love, hope, etc, just facades. If I do not choose to love God, then God is making me do it. We love, because He first loved us. Loved us in the creation, in the cross. We respond in faith, as a matter of free will. Good day. |
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3 | how to be saved | Rom 10:9 | John Reformed | 74357 | ||
The question was "what is your definition of free will?" you gave what you think free will does but not what it is. My definition is that free will is the ability to choose whatsoever we desire. (assuming that it is possible; one may choose to fly like a bird which is impossible) As free will applys to fallen man, he chooses to reject Christ because his fallen state is called "spiritual death" and Paul says the natural man considers spiritual things "foolish". He is even incapable or recieving them. The Bible calls fallen man a slave and in bondage to his father the devil. I've listed a few verses which ilustrate just how desperately wicked and hopeless fallen mankind is. ROM 5:6,7 "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." ROM 7:18 For I know that in me(that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. COL 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled. [9] GEN 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 8:21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done. ROM 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. [10] JAM 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. EPH 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. MAT 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. Man does'nt seem to desire God at all. While it is true that he may choose according to his desire, the fact is, unles God gives him a new heart, he will never desire Him. John |
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4 | how to be saved | Rom 10:9 | EdB | 74392 | ||
John I will probably regret this but...... How on earth do you justify your definition of “free will” as ability to violate physical normality’s? The American Heritage Dictionary give this definition; The mental faculty by which one deliberately chooses or decides upon a course of action, volition, A deliberate decision or conclusion. Free will is the freedom to make a choice or decision. Even though one makes that choose they may still be unable to act upon it without outside intervention. As in the case of flying I can make the choice to fly like a bird but I need a plane to do it. I may chose salvation but I still need the Holy Spirit to accomplish it. EdB |
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5 | how to be saved | Rom 10:9 | John Reformed | 74402 | ||
Dear Bro. Ed, No biblical calvinist says that natural man does not possess the faulty of free will. But what they do say is that no natural man is able to choose spiritual good. They then present the scriptural evidence to support what they believe the fallen state of man entails: spiritual death; estrangement from God; love of sin; suppression of truth etc., etc. " I can make the choice to fly like a bird but I need a plane to do it."---Ed you missed my point. Birds do not need planes to fly, they are naturaly gifted with the ability. There is no way man can choose to fly like a bird. Just as it is impossible for natural man to choose that which he does not desire. We were slaves to sin and without hope or God in this world. Remember? Do you also remember that moment you first believed? Something happened to you back then. You began to desire Christ. You began to understand and desire salvation and to hate sin. A "force" had raised you from spiritual death to spiritual life; and I bet you never took any credit for this miracle for yourself. I have never heard any arminian say: "Boy! am I glad that I made the right choice". Why don't they? because they know in there brand new hearts that it was the work Holy Spirit and not anything that they did to merit salvation. "I may chose salvation but I still need the Holy Spirit to accomplish it." Yes Ed, we all must choose Christ if we are to be saved, but we never would have chosen Him unless we were first chosen by Him. John |
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6 | how to be saved | Rom 10:9 | EdB | 74408 | ||
John Again your definition of free will rather than being agreeable with human understanding of choice must be couched in your condition that it is impossible for man to choose. That renders the word nonsense, just as your assumption is nonsense. Respond if you want but I will not qualify what your saying with further responses. EdB |
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