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NASB | 1 John 3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are [even here and] now children of God, and it is not yet made clear what we will be [after His coming]. We know that when He comes and is revealed, we will [as His children] be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is [in all His glory]. |
Subject: Actual bodies in heaven? |
Bible Note: Hi Val. You wrote: God lives in heaven. Can we agree on that? No. God is omnipresent. He is everywhere. He fills the universe. There is no place where he is not. You wrote: To be absent from the body is to be physically dead. Can we agree on that? Sure. You wrote: We know the dead physical body goes to the grave. Can we agree on that? Sure. You wrote: To be at home with the Lord is to be where the Lord is- in heaven. Can we agree on that? Not necessarily. The Lord is already with us. He indwells us. He is here. Can we agree on that? You wrote: So what is Paul saying in the following verse? Paul is saying that his spirit lives on, goes on, to be with the Lord in heaven. Can we agree on that? So Jesus was lying about being with us always and never leaving us? All I'm saying is that this issue is not as cut and dry as some people say it is, Val. I rather think Paul was speaking of consciousness, that when we die, we know nothing until we wake up in our resurrected bodies. Please see my next post. |