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NASB | Romans 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the [unlimited] love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. |
Subject: is there security of the believer |
Bible Note: Greetings New Creature: Your statement: " Security for branches depends entirely upon their remaining connected to the vine. (John 15:2,6) My statement "Our security is anchored in the worth and work of our Lord Jesus Christ who paid the ultimate price for our redemption. The eternal life which is ours when we trust him is a gift which is given to us the moment we rest in the finished work of Christ. (Romans 6:23) I agree that we must be connected to the vine which is Christ in order to have eternal life. The analogy of the grape vine is used by Jesus in John 15 to describe the union between Christ and the believer. First, we are grafted into him the moment we are born again. He is the main vine and the believers are the branches. The branches cannot be independent of the vine (Christ) who is the source of life and sustenance for the branch. In fact we are totally dependent upon him for he said "without me you can do nothing". The topic in John 15 is dealing with fruit bearing in the life of a believer. To abide in him is to be a disciple of his, submitting to his will and as such we will bring forth fruit (Gal. 5: 22-26.) If we abide in him we will a) abide in his love, b) have full joy v.11, c)have love for one another, d) be friends, not servants, e) our fruit remains f) answered prayer. If we are not willing to abide in him by being submissive to his will, we will wither and at the judgment seat of Christ our work will be tried by fire, only the work which honors Christ will remain. Discipleship is an important excercise for a believer and is the out-working of what Christ has done within. However, our security is not based on our work, but on the work of Christ on the cross. I believe that is why we are given such powerful portions of scripture such as Romans 8:34-39 Peace in our Saviour's name Robert |