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NASB | John 15:16 "You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 15:16 "You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you and I have appointed and placed and purposefully planted you, so that you would go and bear fruit and keep on bearing, and that your fruit will remain and be lasting, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name [as My representative] He may give to you. |
Subject: Bad Arguments Against Calvinism |
Bible Note: Dear Bruce, You misstate the calvinist position when you say: "According to Calvinism,only the "elect" are offered Salvation, and the rest of Mankind is left as being "vessels of Wrath", doomed for eternal torment in hell." We contend that Scripture teaches that the gift of eternal life is given (not offered) to the elect. Let me explain. Before a person can recieve spiritual truth he must first be regenerated. Now he has become a new creature and has the capacity to place faith in Christ. He is not compelled against his will, to the contrary, Christ has become his hearts desire and his will is now to obey his Lord and Master. John |