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NASB | John 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 10:28 "And I give them eternal life, and they will never, ever [by any means] perish; and no one will ever snatch them out of My hand. |
Subject: once saved always saved |
Bible Note: Greetings John! I don't mean this in a mean way, but I have no clue what Calvin means in that passage! ;-) I'm getting ready to leave for work myself now, so I'll have to be very bried for now. :-( Rom. 11:7 speaks of two classes of people, the elect (who obtained the promise) and the rest (who were hardened). (This is an interesting word in itself. It is used in John 12:40 and 2 Cor. 3:14, both passages which describes the hardening accomplished by God. Though 2 Cor. 3:14ff also seems to indicate that this hardening is not permanent.) Rom. 11:8 go on to quote the OT about their hardening. So, 'the rest' would include the natural Israelites who did not accept Christ. But, Rom. 11:11 denies that these fell so as to be beyond recovery. Then, the rest of Romans 11 goes on to make the point that they will be grafted in again if they do not continue in their unbelief. So, the 'elect' seems to be a pretty flexiable group according to this passage. Some are added later, some who are a part can be removed (Rom. 11:21). Hopefully, we can pick this up later. Keep me in your prayers. We are getting ready to move in a couple of weeks, and I have just accepted a associate staff position at our local church. So, there are going to be lots of changes over the next few weeks. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |