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NASB | John 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 10:28 "And I give them eternal life, and they will never, ever [by any means] perish; and no one will ever snatch them out of My hand. |
Subject: once saved always saved |
Bible Note: Hi Tim, I hope you won't mind if I add my 2 cents to the topic. :-) Romans 1 states that God did not reject Israel( v1) but rather, "God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew" (v2). The question is whether or not "national" Israel (every single member of the nation), and "His people whom He foreknew" are identical and therefore the "elect". From the verses that follow (3-5) , Paul cites the prophet and distinguishes between the remnant which God kept for Himself and the majority of the nation. These 7,000 are likened to those believing Israelites of Paul's time who are "a remnant according to God's gracious choice". What I believe these first 5 verses teach is that God has not forsaken those whom He foreknew. Those whom He foreknew are those He had elected from within the nation of Israel (before the creation) and not Israel as a whole. This use of the term "foreknew" harmonizes with Pauls use of the word in Rom 8:29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; Rom 8:30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. Time to go to work :-( John |