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NASB | Luke 22:42 saying, "Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not My will, but Yours be done." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 22:42 saying, "Father, if You are willing, remove this cup [of divine wrath] from Me; yet not My will, but [always] Yours be done." |
Subject: Submissive or Suppressed Wills |
Bible Note: Dear Mark, No, I can't find anyone suggesting that the heart, in Scripture, is not to be taken literally. The dichotomy and trichotomy stuff entered the world through the pagan Greeks, an idea alien to Hebrews. The Hebrews thought of men as unified beings. Death, an abnormal condition, would be resolved in the resurrection. We also carry around a lot of baggage from Gnostic teachings on this topic. Perhaps it would be helpful to consider the similar way the average American thinks of the brain. The modern man does not expect to cut into a brain and find the real person. The Hebrew would not have expected to cut into a heart and find the real person. The modern man does not use the term brain as a metaphor. The ancient Hebrew man did not use the term heart as a metaphor. Both understand that a blob of tissue exists, but both tend to think of it as somehow containing a man's essence. The "center of man" is probably as good a phrase as any. Essence might work... All our words don't quite sum it up very well. Maybe we shouldn't even try. After all, if the Bible calls it "heart" we should just use the same language, in spite of all the English stuff we carry along with the word. On the other topic: Looking at the context of 1 Corinthians 2:8 one does not find any reference to demons. Paul is assuring his readers that the Gospel is not based in the wisdom of men but the power of God (v5). The comparisons are persuasive speech (v1) versus the testimony of God (v2) and man's wisdom (v4) versus power of the Holy Spirit (v4). The wisdom of the world and the men ruling in the world comes "to nought" (v7), but God's wisdom is eternal and infallible (v7), but is unknown to the men ruling in the world (v8). (Albert Barnes comments on this verse, "referring both to the Jewish rulers, and the Roman governor." John Gill and Matthew Henry concur.) Had the Jewish rulers and Roman governors understood what was involved, they would not have crucified Christ (v8). Sorry, I didn't "just set it aside." I'd really like to know if there is explicit Scriptural support for "demonic influence" in the Crucifiction. I've always assumed that there was -- even before seeing Mel Gibson's movie :-) -- but I hadn't thought it through until your chance comment. After searching the Scriptures I couldn't find an explicit statement to support the view. Now, this doesn't mean that it can't be rightly inferred... after all, we have that Judas passage... I just thought you might have seen a specific Scripture on the topic that I had missed. Questions aren't always challenges, Brother Mark... sometimes they are requests to improve our imperfect understanding. Sorry for getting you upset. In Him, Doc |