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NASB | Isaiah 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Isaiah 9:6 For to us a Child shall be born, to us a Son shall be given; And the government shall be upon His shoulder, And His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. [Is 25:1; 40:9-11; Matt 28:18; Luke 2:11] |
Subject: Is Jesus the 'Eternal Father'? |
Bible Note: Jim denies the Trinity, saying that the idea of God eternally existing in three distinct persons is not biblical. He holds to what is alternately termed modalism or "Oneness," which holds that Jesus Christ is the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Now, how he explains the subject-object distinction between the persons of the Trinity as they act on each other in the NT is beyond me, as is how he explains all three being manifested at Jesus' baptism and the Father speaking from Heaven with Jesus standing on the Mount of Transfiguration. Either God is deliberately deceiving us into thinking He exists in three distinct persons, or that is really His nature. --Joe! |