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NASB | Isaiah 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Isaiah 9:6 For to us a Child shall be born, to us a Son shall be given; And the government shall be upon His shoulder, And His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. [Is 25:1; 40:9-11; Matt 28:18; Luke 2:11] |
Subject: Is Jesus the 'Eternal Father'? |
Bible Note: Hi guys, This "Oneness" is new to me, bear with me please. I didn't know before this forum that a debate was roaring, but I've been away from things for a long while. In the Isaiah 9:6 passage I can't see the Messiah as being "Eternal anything" if the child, a son who is given to us, is merely a man. I go with the NKJ and match His name with the Child, the Son who came to earth. I'll match His name with Matthew 4:16 and Isaiah 9:1,2. I'll match His name with the Sunrise from on high of Luke 1:78,79. I'll even match His name with John 6:42,"They were saying,"Is this not Jesus the Son of Josehph whose father and mother we know? How does He say, 'I have come down out of heaven.'"...AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD. I always thought that the Father and Son were one Spirit. There is One who is good. There is one Holy Spirit. Where had I been wrong? The writer of Ephesians says, "Therefore I, the prisoner of the Lord, implore you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love, being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace." The NASB study bible led me also to Eph 5:5-20 Eph. 5:8, "but now you are light in the (Lord); walk as children of Light (for the fruit of the Light consists in all goodness and righteousness and truth)..." I think that we are light so I make this lower case but He is the (Light) of the world. Capitalization shows respect for Jesus, it shows Him as Deity, it makes Him Spirit if you will. We will not know a man in heaven but we will see Him as He is. The light of Isaiah 9:2 is fulfilled when the Light dawns upon us. The Deity of Christ is what makes the Three One. And the name and authority of Jesus is what brings glory to God the Father. |