Results 1 - 10 of 10
|
|
|||||
Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Ordered by Verse | ||||||
Results | Verse | Author | ID# | |||
1 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | aften1 | 72033 | ||
The original point to this thread was that faith is a granting. That you have to do nothing but belive. Jesus went to work. So must we. By your fruits (works) you are known. The words of Jesus about the Roman Centurion says much. First you have to have faith in yourself , (that you have seen, heard and understand) what Jesus is saying about the Roman Centurion ( a man of responsibility) are in the words spoken by Jesus. Next Jesus says (in my understanding) that blind belief is not enough. You have to think, look at the proof and then judge if someone or something is good or evil, by their actions. Seems to me the children Jesus speaks of that are cast into darkness have not thought things out in the search for truth, or upon finding truth have done little to advance the truth. And yet at first they sit down with the families in the Kingdom. All the heads of the families listed in the verses have worked hard and done much in service to Father. The first work starts with oneself. |
||||||
2 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 72075 | ||
"The original point to this thread was that faith is a granting. That you have to do nothing but belive. Jesus went to work. So must we. By your fruits (works) you are known." Yes, by our fruits we are known by MEN to be Christ's disciples: "So then, you will know them by their fruits." --Matthew 7:20 True Christians will work, but we do not become Christians by working or maintain a state of being a Christian by working. "The words of Jesus about the Roman Centurion says much. First you have to have faith in yourself , (that you have seen, heard and understand) what Jesus is saying about the Roman Centurion ( a man of responsibility) are in the words spoken by Jesus." I don't see believing in yourself mentioned at all here. I see a Genile, a Roman centurion, expressing his unworthiness to have Jesus come to his house (an understainding of his own sin) and faith that Jesus can heal the servant. When Jesus offers to go to his house, the centurion demonstrates a God-given, deeper faith by saying that just as he says the word and those subordinates follow his command, so Jesus has authority over the health and sickness of the centurion's servant, even from a great distance. Look at the comparison: The centurion merely gives the order, and it is done; likewise, Jesus just says the word, and it is done. He recognizes the sovereign authority Jesus Christ possesses. "Next Jesus says (in my understanding) that blind belief is not enough. You have to think, look at the proof and then judge if someone or something is good or evil, by their actions." What part of this passage gives you the impression that Jesus is saying that here in Matthew 8:5-13? You wrote: "Seems to me the children Jesus speaks of that are cast into darkness have not thought things out in the search for truth, or upon finding truth have done little to advance the truth. And yet at first they sit down with the families in the Kingdom." What we see in verses 11-12 is a contrast: "I say to you that many will come from east and west, and recline at the table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven; but the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." The first group Jesus describes are clearly the Gentiles (like the centurion), who will dwell in heaven with the patriarchs. By contrast, the sons of the kingdom most likely refers to the Jews, the physical sons and daughters of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The vast majority of Jews are still going to hell, having rejected their Messiah and dying in their sins. This makes sense both because this is a Gentile expressing such faith and because this statement immediately follows Jesus comment that "I have not found such great faith with anyone in Israel." --Joe! |
||||||
3 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | aften1 | 72079 | ||
Joe - there are Whole Chapters in the Bible that are a SEALED work. The book of Isaih, Daniel and Revelations. How can you reform Christianity when you do not know the mind or will of God on these matters? Christians in the past have killed thousands in the name of reform. You should raise your level of understaning. There is only one who speaks for Father (God) and that is the Son of God - Jesus. The Apostle John points the way in his writings of John chapter 1,2,3 and his writings of Revelation. You see the Son of God got it right the first time - he knows what his children need. :) Matthew 7 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. |
||||||
4 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72083 | ||
Aften1, the prophecy in Dan. 12:9 states that these things would be sealed "until the time of the end". And Rev. 10 shows that the time has come for these things to be unsealed. The book in the angel's hand is "open" (unsealed) and it is a book of prophecy (verse 11). Ezekiel was given the gift of prophecy the same way as described here in Rev. 10 (Ezek. 2:9 through 3:4). If you let the Bible interpret itself these things mentioned in the prophecies are easy to understand. You asked, "How can you reform Christianity when you do not know the mind or will of God on these matters?" The answer is simple. If the Bible warns of things that people are doing wrong then it is the duty of God's people to warn them. Isa. 58:1 and Ezek. 33:7-9 are but two examples. |
||||||
5 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | aften1 | 72104 | ||
Let the Bible interpret itself? Gimmie a break. In order to unseal a prophecy you need the code. I can tell you this the Book of Revelations has been decoded. The problem is that you believe with liner eyes. Birth to death. The soul (Spirt) does not die unless you choose perdition (look up the word "perdition") in the King James version. Also Rev 10 does not show me that the time has come - it only showes me that you choose to believe your own mind - in your understanding of Rev 10. Also the Bible has 10 commandments not "The ten warnings" Your duty is to your God your family then your country. Sermon on the warning? Well anything is possible. |
||||||
6 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72106 | ||
The codes for unsealing the prophecies are all throughout the Bible. The catch is, "they are spiritually discerned". By mocking and making fun of things that go against your own belief you show me that you will never understand this. If you let the Bible interpret itself you would understand the prophecies of Revelation. "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." All souls die. Only those that are saved have any hope in taking part in the resurrection of life. And I never said the Ten Commandments are "Ten Warnings" where do you get that from? |
||||||
7 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | aften1 | 72279 | ||
Uh - show me the codes for unsealing Isaiah, Daniel and Revelations. You can not because you are not the one to do this work in service to Father. The books can be unsealed and in time if you have a need to know - you will. However at this time I can only point out that these Books are "SEALED". And Christians need to know this - so they do not walk around thinking they understand the whole picture. Once the works are laid bare for all to see then according to your ability, you will be able to understand in the here and now. You will find that spiritual discernment has little to do with it. And channeling spirits will get you nothing but a hard time. |
||||||
8 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72283 | ||
It will take time to show you all the texts in the Bible that "decifer" the codes of the prophecies. Why don't we start by you showing me from the Bible why you think the prophecies are still "sealed"? And I don't understand what you mean by "channeling spirits". please clarify. |
||||||
9 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | aften1 | 72291 | ||
It is not proper to answer a question with a question. However I will indulge you this time. Isaiah 29 10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. 11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. Daniel 12 8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Revelation 1 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: (Revelations 1:1 has meaning in that Jesus (an incarnate Angel) received Revelation from God, and Jesus sent the Revelation to John via (his Angel). John sealed the work because he knew people of poor intent would try to change the words of Revelations for their own agenda. The real brillant act on the Apostle Johns part is that he did not tell the men of the Earth that he sealed his writings in Revelations. A two step - men assumed Revelations was written in a liner fashion. Revelation 5 1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? So you see Angels have sealed things and hidden some things from man. However men and woman will be full partners, and I have been advised that it is wise to think of humans and Angels as one reality - and it makes sense to me because I have been on Earth working for and along side men and woman for a while as a mortal. I do not view humans as less than Angels. You should understand that in the Universe there are good Angels and bad ones - also there are Angels trying to decide which way they will go. |
||||||
10 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72322 | ||
Aften1, you supplied the following texts: "Isaiah 29 10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. 11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned." If you read the rest of the chapter you will see that these things are hidden from the wicked. Check out verses 13-16. You also supplied this text: "Daniel 12 8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand." Again the wicked do not understand but the wise will understand. And verse 9 clearly shows that the words are sealed "till the time of the end". The text in Rev. 1:1 says just the opposite. That these things are not sealed. That John was shown these things and understood what they meant. Nowhere does it state that he (John) "sealed" these things from those he wrote to. In fact verse 3 IMPLIES an understanding. Then your text in Rev. 5:1-2. Again if you read the rest of the chapter you will find that these seals were opened. verses 5 and 9. And chapter 6 even records each of the seven seals being opened. (Well, except for the seventh seal. It gets opened in 8:1). Now consider Amos 3:7, Aften. I Cor. 2:10; Eph. 3:5. There are others as well that show these things ARE revealed to God's people. Even the title of the book of Revelation means "a revealing" not a sealed writing. continued in next post... |
||||||