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1 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211117 | ||
Dear Pete, Of course we can spin and compare apples to oranges all day long and find numerous comparisons that we can stretch to make our point. Still at the end of the day, we haven’t really addressed the concern now have we? You’ve mentioned a few times now, “subscribing to my way of thinking”. Pete, if I’m pulling the info directly from Scripture, whose thinking is it, really. Be honest with yourself. My old or current habits have nothing to do with the point scripture makes my friend. I allow myself to divulge that info to help the conversation along, just so you know, I’m not perfect either. Speaking of not being perfect, you ask am I offering myself as a living sacrifice? Not even close to how I should be. But as time goes on I realize, through the conviction of the Spirit, something else, some new deplorable and repulsive thing about myself and then pray that God will vanquish it. But the first thing that happens in any of those cases is that I’m informed in some manner that it needs to be relinquished. We grow Pete. We continually grow in Christ. To become stagnant is as deadly as regressing, you see where I’m going with that. Pete, would it make a difference to you if I did sell everything I own? Because brother, if I KNEW it would have an effect on you, that it would secure you and bring you closer to God, I would more than likely consider it. But since I’m just a “nobody” and have no strength accept through Christ, what good would it do? I think it would simply leave me and my family out in the cold. Is that what needs to be done for you to see? Would you really wish that upon me? However, you have one who actually has already given up everything for you, even His life. And in Him there is great power and security. Now let’s be clear Pete, of what have I accused you? If I point out specific scripture that is relevant to the very question you yourself have posed and shows something other than the position you currently hold, who is actually accusing you of anything? If you think it is me, you render me far too much credit. I’m in this as you are. Scripture accuses me every time I study. It shows me that I can’t live for the Law. I’m put on trial, convicted and sentenced to death every time. However, we have a great advocate in Jesus who sees to it that the pardon we truly don’t deserve is granted. All you have to do is put your faith and trust in Him. Pete, none of us are perfect. We all need the grace of God. I’ll end participation to this thread at your wish and offer you the last word if you desire. Please remember, I’m not accusing you of anything and my concern is not the strong drink or the feeling it brings or even why you think it is appropriate. The only thing I’ve tried to point out is why? Why do you do it? For your own self satisfaction or for the glory of God and that you study the subject in depth through the Word of God. God’s grace is a wonderful thing Pete, and I pray this day, you find yourself standing in it. WOS |
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2 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211138 | ||
Dear WOS, Thank you for your long dissertation. I'm beginning to see the pattern with most people. They will read something they like and take it word for word, but then when they read something they don't like, they find a way to spin it to mean something other than what it says. I would venture to speculate that this is the reason why we have an inordinate amount of differnt religions. God has given each and every one of us our own level of reasoning and rationale and I am beginning to realize that I shouldn't be trying to convince anyone one way or the other. Oh well, it was nice chatting with you WOS. One last thought though, as I was laying in bed last night trying to sleep, I wondered why God had issued hundreds of rules, commands and laws of which many were misdemeanor at best. In the first five books of the bible God laid down a host of principles. For example a woman shall not wear the clothes of a man, death to a homosexual, death for breaking the sabbath, death to one who comits adultery, a woman is unclean for two weeks after giving birth to a girl, a list of clean and unclean foods, eating pork is an abomination as well as many others, all of which have very little impact on anyone if violated. YET, on one of the most serious of all social evils when abused, nowhere does God say, THOU SHALT NOT DRINK STRONG DRINK! It seems fruitless to continue because I will never see it from your point of view and I know you will never see it from my point of view. There are many situations in life that destroy innocent lives but we keep doing it, why, because we want to. Tsunamis kill thousands, yet people still choose to live near the sea, airplane crashes take many innocent lives, yet most of us still choose to fly, automobile accidents kill thousands of people each year, yet we still choose to own our vehicles, why, because we want to. The abuse of alcohol destroys many many lives yet we still choose to drink, why, because we want to. There is no command from God not to. I will not put words into God's mouth to make it appear that He said something He did not. God gave us the vineyards for wine and the grain fields for beer and strong drink. I will exercise and promote prudence and responsibility as I enjoy what God has given. Thank WOS for your kind banter with me on this. I wish you well. God bless you. Pete |
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3 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211153 | ||
I wish you well too pete. One last thought... As I was lying in bed trying to sleep last night... I was praying for you. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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