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1 | Woman's sin worse than man's? | Eph 5:33 | Robert Nicholson | 65611 | ||
Rabbi Mark: I see we are still blaming the woman! Adam played the blame game "And the man said the woman whom thous gavest to be with me she gave of the tree and I did eat." What a pathetic excuse! Adam the first man with dominion over all blames the woman because he is not willing to take responsiblity for his own actions "he did eat" Gen. 3:7 God had told thim if he were to eat he would die. Why would he eat? And why would he shift the blame to the woman that God had given him as a help mate? It would seem to me that Adam was simlply passing the buck and he is the one who is blamed with bring sin into the world Rom. 5:12 In our day of grace the man is exhorted to love the wife as himself. In fact when he shows love to her in deed and action he is loving his self since they are one. As I have mentioned in previous posts they are equal in the sight of God with specific roles in the Lord. Man and woman both have responsiblities in Christ and to each other, but the modifiying factor is love. If Christ were to deal with us according to our deed since we were saved we would be lost forever. However, he has dealt with us in grace and in love and recognizes our weakness (warts and all) and is gracious toward us. If a husband truly wants to reflect the love of Christ to him, to his wife he will love her regardless of perceived weaknesses and will treasure her as a gift from God. I believe that this is what Adam saw in Eve which is his decision to disobey God that they might continue to be together. God in his grace clothed them in animal skins a picture of what he does today for both men and women, clothing them in the righteousness of Christ forever. I think part of our problem in this modern world is still determining who shall be the greatest. I am aware that men and women have a specific role in the church which is his body. Nevertheless, as individuals we "have by one Spirit we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles..." 1 Cor. 12:13 We are members of his body and are not differentiated by gender. In fact the apostle Paul writes "Now are ye the body of Christ members in particular" 1 Cor. 12:14 Whether we be male or female we are members of the body of Christ and as such we have a unique role. Rabbi Mark: We are not under the law. Over the past two thousand years men have used the scriptures to maintain their power and control over women. Is this right? Governments thought so, even in Canada women first became persons in 1918. Does this sound right? Women must be saved as individuals, women must grow in Christ as individuals and how can man continue to put them in a role subserviant to men. It is time we realized that we ( men and women) are workers together in grace. We may have specific and unique roles in the church, nevertheless, there is no inferiority in the members. Robert |
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2 | Woman's sin worse than man's? | Eph 5:33 | Rabbi Mark | 65619 | ||
Hi Robert: In your first paragraph you say, "What a pathetic excuse! Adam the first man with dominion over all blames the woman because he is not willing to take responsiblity for his own actions "he did eat" Adam did take the responsibility. But he gave a full explanation of what had transpired. Don't you see that he said, "And the man said the woman whom thous gavest to be with me she gave of the tree and I did eat." This is an accurate account of what happened. And Eve deserved the blame. She did give him of the fruit. He never would have eaten it unless she did. So when you say we are still playing the blame game ... your starting your whole premise off on the wrong foot. Adam didn't blame Eve. He simply stated the facts before God. As far as me blaming anybody for anything -- I don't know what your talking about. I think you are misunderstanding my post Robert. You demonstrate that by going way off on some tangents. The tangents you go off on express your opinion. Show me some scripture to validate your position. I know you think these things. And they are easy to say. But not so easy to prove. So if you are up to a challenge ... sit down and prove each and every thing you have written to me in your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th paragraphs with relevant scripture. Then I'll be glad to answer you. If you prove me wrong with scripture, I will accept that. But why should I sit down with my Bible for hours to refute what you say when you've obviously put no time into researching it yourself. It seems to me you'd only write me another post based on the same whims expressed here. I don't deal in futility. And I am not going to spar with you. Rabbi Mark |
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3 | Woman's sin worse than man's? | Eph 5:33 | glory777 | 65624 | ||
Sorry, Rabbi Mark- But not onlydoes it sound to me as though Adam passed the buck to Eve, but that he also passed the buck to God - The woman YOU gave me". You have given no proof that Adam wasn't there when Eve took of the fruit and I don't think you can find any, so your assumption that he wasn't there is just as valid as mine if I say he was. No condemnation here, just saying that this may be one area no one has proof of either way. I never thought of the matter that Adam wanted to share whatever Eve would have to face. Good food for thought. But is that rational and you don't have proof for that, either. No one forced it down his throat, it was his choice to choose his mate over God. Question - wasn't he, not only turning dominion of the earth over to Satan by his action, but also, in a sense, turning dominion over to his wife? Should start a war here with this one! Debbie |
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4 | Woman's sin worse than man's? | Eph 5:33 | Morant61 | 65634 | ||
Greetings Debbie! No matter how you cut it, whether Adam was there when Eve ate or not, Adam simply ate what Eve gave him without any regard for God's command. But, he sure proved our superiority to women didn't he? ;-) The bottom line: Adam and Eve both sinned against God's command and as a result sin entered the world. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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