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1 | is there security of the believer | Rom 8:39 | Emmy | 116767 | ||
Hank I have encountered these arguements before, but we disagree. Our premises are opposite on this point. Mine: One can fall away. Your: One cannot fall away. We can therefore not both be right on this point. Logical conclusions: If you are right then I have nothing to lose, since you claim that if one is born again, though he sin or hold erroneous beliefs he cannot lose life. If I am right, I am likely to be more vigilant, knowing the possibility exists that things could turn out wrong in the end. Sincerely Henry and Emmy |
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2 | is there security of the believer | Rom 8:39 | kalos | 116777 | ||
Henry and Emmy: With all respect, may I point out: If your premise is that one can fall away, then it is likely your conclusion will be that one can fall away. Let's not get the horse before the cart, or, in this case, the conclusion before the premise. Grace to you, kalos |
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3 | is there security of the believer | Rom 8:39 | Emmy | 116855 | ||
Dear kalos: Does the logic you state also apply to your premise and conclusion. From my view point this is how it works: I did not start with the premise that one could fall away. I started by reading scripture. These readings lead to the conclusion that one can fall away. We then found that no scripture passage contradicts this premise at any time. If you wish, post a passage that you think says most strongly that one cannot fall away and I'll try toreturn a response as to exactly what I think the passage means. Sincerely Emmy and Henry |
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