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1 | Saved vs. Works (John 5:24 and 5:28-29) | John 5:24 | Dabody7 | 63806 | ||
We are not saved by works in the sense of earning, meriting, or purchasing salvation by good works. However, the grace of God will lead to good works and holiness of life. After Ephesians 2:8-9 emphatically teaches salvation by grace and not works, the next verse continues, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them:" God gives us grace expressly to enable us to produce good works. "And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work" (II Corinthians 9:8). God's grace has come to show us how to live righteous, holy lives and to give us power to do so. "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world" (Titus 2:11-12). God's grace brings salvation as a free gift, including the power to live righteously. Although we cannot earn the gift of salvation, once we receive it our lives will change and we will begin to do good works as a result. If we do not manifest righteous and godly attributes, then we are not letting God's saving grace work in us. We cannot separate grace from a life of devotion and obedience to Christ. If the doctrine of grace teaches that God does all the work in man's salvation, are all men automatically saved? This cannot be true because many will receive eternal damnation at the last judgment (Revelation 20:11-15). If the doctrine of grace teaches that man cannot assist God in providing salvation, does God unconditionally choose certain ones to be saved regardless of their own attitudes and responses? This cannot be true either because God is no respecter of persons (Acts 10:34). If He chose some unconditionally, His fairness would cause Him to choose all |
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2 | Saved vs. Works (John 5:24 and 5:28-29) | John 5:24 | Hank | 63851 | ||
The doctrine of grace does not teach universalism. All men are not "automatically" saved. The doctrine of grace does teach that certain ones will be saved regardless of their own attitudes and responses. The doctrine of grace does teach that salvation is wholly of God and not dependent upon human merit or good works. The doctrine of grace teaches that it is by God's grace alone that anyone is ever saved, that comes by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone. Subsequent good works attest to but do not effect salvation. We are saved unto (to do) good works, but in no wise saved by them. We simply cannot tie good works and salvation together except in the sense that good works follow in the wake of regeneration. Justification and sanctification are not the same things. Through faith we are justified before God by the redemptive work of Christ on the cross. We are thus saved (regenerated). Sanctification is an ongoing process in the believer's life in which he grows more Christ-like through obedience to His commands. This is the place "good works" fits into the scheme -- never salvific; always post-salvific. [I have already cited numerous passages of Scripture on this topic in an earlier post to this thread, so I won't repeat them here.] --Hank | ||||||
3 | saved regardless of their own attitudes? | John 5:24 | Pastor Glenn | 63858 | ||
Hank, I hate picking on just one statement that you made, but this one just looks strange. Where does this statement come from? "The doctrine of grace does teach that certain ones will be saved regardless of their own attitudes and responses. " If it is true then does that include "attitudes and responses" towards Christ? God Bless, Pastor Glenn |
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4 | saved regardless of their own attitudes? | John 5:24 | Hank | 63859 | ||
Pastor Glenn, a hearty hello, and an equally hearty thanks for pointing out a horrible error of omission of a key word, and the word was "not." ..... The statement in my former post which reads, "The doctrine of grace does teach that certain ones will be saved regardless of their own attitudes and responses" should read, "The doctrine of grace does NOT teach that certain ones will be saved regardless of their own attitudes and responses.".... Pastor Glenn, try as I may to proof-read posts before submitting them, now and then a big blooper gets by, and this was a whopper dopper super blooper! I do appreciate your catching it and pointing it out, thus affording me the opportunity to correct it. Thanks again, brother. You have rendered me -- and the forum -- a great service. --Hank | ||||||
5 | saved regardless of their own attitudes? | John 5:24 | Pastor Glenn | 63868 | ||
Hey, Well, this just shows that we are just like family here Hank: When one of us makes a blooper, it makes the rest of us feel good about ourselves. ;-) One thing that helps me is to write my longer posts in my word processor before copying here. This helps spell checking, but I still make similar bloopers. God Bless you brother, Pastor Glenn |
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