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1 | once saved always saved | John 10:28 | Radioman2 | 86861 | ||
What does it mean...? Heb 6:6 ____________________ "With full revelation they rejected the truth . . . They can never have more knowledge than they had when they rejected it." "There is no possibility of these verses referring to losing salvation. Many Scripture passages make unmistakably clear that salvation is eternal (compare John 10:27-29; Rom. 8:35,38,39; Phil. 1:6; 1 Pet. 1:4,5)." ____________________ Hebrews 6:6 "Fall away. "This Gr. term occurs only here in the NT. In the LXX, it was used to translate terms for severe unfaithfulness and apostasy. It is equivalent to the apostasy in [Heb] 3:12. The seriousness of this unfaithfulness is seen in the severe description of rejection within this verse: they re-crucify Christ and treat Him contemptuously (see also the strong descriptions in 10:29). "The 'impossible' of v. 4 goes with 'to renew them again to repentance.' Those who sinned against Christ in such a way had no hope of restoration or forgiveness. The reason is that they had rejected Him with full knowledge and conscious experience (as described in the features of vv. 5,6). With full revelation they rejected the truth, concluding the opposite of the truth about Christ, and thus had no hope of being saved. They can never have more knowledge than they had when they rejected it. They have concluded that Jesus should have been crucified, and they stand with his enemies. "There is no possibility of these verses referring to losing salvation. Many Scripture passages make unmistakably clear that salvation is eternal (compare John 10:27-29; Rom. 8:35,38,39; Phil. 1:6; 1 Pet. 1:4,5). Those who want to make this verse mean that believers can lose salvation will have to admit that it would then also say that one could never get it back again." (Note at Hebrews 6:6, MacArthur Study Bible, Word Publishing, 1997. For all Scripture references, see the MacArthur Study Bible.) |
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2 | spiritual revelation to un- regenerate? | John 10:28 | gracefull | 87232 | ||
I, too do not readily say 'Once saved, always saved' if not for any other reason but that often I have heard people who were openly living in rebellion against God's commandments. there is no way to witness or reason the scriptural truth that those who are born again...who believe..should be producing the fruit of the Spirit... I would like to question one point of the above 'commentary'. "With full revelation they rejected the truth . . . They can never have more knowledge than they had when they rejected it." I question whether an unregenerted spirit can receive 'full revelation' of such truths as listed in verses 1-5 without having first received the revelation of Jesus Christ through repentance and faith thus producing the new birth. They could receive mental knowledge of the teachings, but the 'revelation' of Truth in our regenerated spirit is different. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Hebrews 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. Can the unregenerated spirit receive 'revelation' from the Holy Spirit? God bless |
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3 | spiritual revelation to un- regenerate? | John 10:28 | prazn | 87237 | ||
Please don't under-estimate the power of the Living God, my friend. Guaranteed, once we are His, we are always His no matter how far we stray. For He declares in His Word that if He has begun a "good work" in us, He "will be faithful to complete it, until the day of Chist Jesus." -Phil 1:6 It is unfortunate, but many who do stray are brought back through tragedy or some other life altering circumstance, but our Lord does "chasten those He loves": Heb 12:5 and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons, "MY SON, DO NOT REGARD LIGHTLY THE DISCIPLINE OF THE LORD, NOR FAINT WHEN YOU ARE REPROVED BY HIM; Heb 12:6 FOR THOSE WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE DISCIPLINES, AND HE SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES." Heb 12:7 It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline? Heb 12:8 But if you are without discipline, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Heb 12:9 Furthermore, we had earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them; shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits, and live? Heb 12:10 For they disciplined us for a short time as seemed best to them, but He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness. Heb 12:11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness. To answer your question, the unregenerated spirit cannot receive "revelation" from the Holy Spirit. The Lord tells us in 1 Cor 2:14, "...a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised." Blessings! |
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4 | spiritual revelation to un- regenerate? | John 10:28 | gracefull | 87238 | ||
prazin...I do lean more in this direction myself. Nothing but the blood of Jesus saved me. Mainly because of the simple but profound truth Ephesians 2:7-9 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Based on my own personal testimony..from the perspective of a full fledged backslider...my faith in the Jesus shed blood and the love of God to enlighten and correct the errors in my beliefs and heal the wounds never faltered! The reality of the Holy Spirit in my life was never in question to me. (others probably questioned it though) Regardless of which persuasion one may be on this subject though, there is the concern that some who have never truly been born again may be believing in a religion rather than the actual experience of the new birth. But that is for us to pray for them and God to remedy.... God bless |
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