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1 | Is Jesus the 'Eternal Father'? | Is 9:6 | Makarios | 5531 | ||
Jesus' most common title for Himself is the "Son of Man", occurring 84 times in the Gospels and never used by anyone but Jesus. Daniel 7:13-14 picture the 'Son of Man' as a heavenly figure who in the end times is entrusted by God with authority and sovereign power. "Son of Man" is the Messianic title of Jesus Christ, occurring in Matt. 8:20, 9:6, Mark 2:10, 10:33, Luke 12:10, 18:31, John 6:27, 13:31 to name a few. This title correlates with Jesus' title as Son of God, showing that He was fully God and fully man, but yet did not sin. Translators need a 'Son of Man' not only because it is in the text, but also because it helps to explain that Jesus was fully man. As for why 'son' and 'child' are not capitalized, do you notice the separation or shift in the phrase of the first sentence? The first phrase begins by introducing the next phrase, which will expound upon and give the precise meaning for what is meant by 'son' and 'child'. In this way, a human child or son will be given (from the royal line of David) that will be wholly divine in nature, as seen by the capitalized titles that are given to Him in the second half of the sentence. So you can see that even the sentence structure of this verse shows the fullfillment of Christ as Messiah, King and Mighty God! But to deny either the undiminished deity or the perfect humanity of Christ is to put oneself outside the pale of orthodoxy (1 John 4:2-3). There are innumerable passages in the New Testament that confirm Christ's full humanity. For example, Hebrews 2:14 tells us that "he too shared in their humanity". Also, Romans 8:3 says that God sent Jesus "in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering." Paul affirms that "in Christ all the fullness of the Deity dwells in bodily form" (Col. 2:9).Scripture is clear that He experienced normal human development through infancy, childhood, adolescence and adulthood. In Luke 2:40, Jesus 'grew', 'became strong' and was 'filled with wisdom'. These are things that could never be said of His divine nature. Also, Luke 2:52 tells us that "Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men." Again, this can only be said of His humanity. However, Christ always did the will of God and never sinned. Hebrews 4:15 says "tempted in every way just as we are - yet was without sin." Christ is 'holy', 'blameless', 'pure' (Hebrews 7:26). Sorry I didn't get back with you a little sooner Ray, since I have been engrossed with other topics.. :) I hope that you have found 'my take' on things interesting.. God bless! Nolan (Sources: NASB Study Bible) | ||||||
2 | Is Jesus the 'Eternal Father'? | Is 9:6 | Ray | 6286 | ||
Hi Nolan, I have to reopen this topic because I don't think you answered my question. I asked, and pay attention to the capitalization please, "Why do people need a son of man?" You answered, "Translators need a 'Son of Man'..." Do you see why I believe you did not answer the question? You gave references to the Son of Man and they were all capitalized. Why do we need to bring Jesus down to our level and make Him a man? You say that He did not sin. Then make Him God and capitalize Him as a Man. You don't call Him the son of God. You don't think that He is Joseph's illegitimate son. Why must translators make Him a man? It just now dawned on me. If we make Him a Son of Man then we make the Man the Father of the Son and that is what you are denying. I would lead you to Matthew 21:33-46. |
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3 | Capitals? What was your question Ray? | Is 9:6 | Makarios | 6306 | ||
Ray, I don't understand what you are asking or saying here.. Please clarify for me so that I can give you an informative response. As for translating Jesus as 'son of man' (lower capitals) this is done usually to focus on Jesus' humanity. Is this what you are referring to? As for the translators and why they chose to or not to capitalize certain things, that is probably best answered by the translators themselves. | ||||||
4 | Capitals? What was your question Ray? | Is 9:6 | Searcher56 | 6309 | ||
Capitalization is not in the orginial text. Transaltions vary on if the captialize a name/ attribute of God. Christ was both fully human and fully God. |
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5 | Capitals? What was your question Ray? | Is 9:6 | Makarios | 6313 | ||
Yes, this is where we can find agreement: That Christ was both fully human and fully God. Praise the Lord that we have a High Priest that is able to relate to and understand all of our sufferings! I'm willing to look at specific passages with you in the New Testament to see if the Greek specifically 'capitalizes' each noun that refers to the person of Christ. I don't know what end that this would serve, except to help understand why certain translators decided to capitalize here or there and some didn't. I do not have a complete copy of the Hebrew here with me, so I would be ill-suited to help you with Hebrew. But I would be willing to look at the Greek. | ||||||
6 | Capitals? What was your question Ray? | Is 9:6 | Ray | 6367 | ||
Hi Nolan, I think I can agree on fully human, also. I expect some help on a new question under Hebrews 7:26. | ||||||
7 | Capitals? What was your question Ray? | Is 9:6 | Makarios | 6812 | ||
Hello Ray! Hebrews 7:26 is describing Jesus as our "high priest". The word usage in the Greek for 'high priest' in this verse does not refer to God directly (as far as specific word usage) and therefore does not denote capitalization for the noun 'high priest'. Therefore, 'high priest' in the context of this verse is indeed describing Jesus as our perfect and exalted high priest, but is using a human term ('high priest' as pertaining to the Law vv. 28) to describe Jesus, and is therefore not capitalized. We can contrast the word usage here with vv. 25 and 27-28, where Diety is directly referred to (and rendering capitalization), while the human term as pertaining to the law, 'high priest', remains uncapitalized. | ||||||