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1 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | srbaegon | 214964 | ||
Hello bibleman12, You have been given several reasons. You just do not like them. Here are more. Barnes' Notes: "Abraham must have felt the outward inconsistency between the sacrifice of his son, and the promise that in him should his seed be called. But in the triumph of faith he accounted that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead. On no other principle can the prompt, mute, unquestioning obedience of Abraham be explained. Human sacrifice may have been not unknown; but this in no way met the special difficulty of the promise. The existence of such a custom might seem to have smoothed away the difficulty of a parent offering the sacrifice of a son. But the moral difficulty of human sacrifice is not so removed. The only solution of this, is what the ease itself actually presents; namely, the divine command. It is evident that the absolute Creator has by right entire control over his creatures. He is no doubt bound by his eternal rectitude to do no wrong to his moral creatures. But the creature in the present case has forfeited the life that was given, by sin. And, moreover, we cannot deny that the Almighty may, for a fit moral purpose, direct the sacrifice of a holy being, who should eventually receive a due recompense for such a degree of voluntary obedience. This takes away the moral difficulty, either as to God who commands, or Abraham who obeys. Without the divine command, it is needless to say that it was not lawful for Abraham to slay his son." Lawrence O. Richards, The Bible Readers Companion "God did not intend for Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. The command was a test: a test of how far Abraham would trust the Lord with his most precious possession." James Montgomery Boice, Genesis "How could this problem be resolved? There were only two ways. Abraham could have concluded that God was erratic, wavering from one plan to another because he did not know his own mind. This had not been Abraham’s experience of God. The long wait for the son had taught him better than that. Or Abraham could have concluded that, although he—being finite and sinful—was unable to see the resolution of the difficulty, God could nevertheless be trusted to have a resolution, which he himself would certainly disclose in due time. This was the harder of the two solutions to accept, but Abraham’s experience of God led in this direction. Abraham acted in a manner consistent with his knowledge of God. That is, he trusted him, concluding that whatever God’s purposes may or may not have been in this situation, God had at least shown that he could not be his enemy. God was his friend. When the command to sacrifice Isaac was first given, Abraham did not understand how, if the command were carried out, the promise could be fulfilled. But that was all right. Abraham left the difficulty with God, which is the essence of true faith. What is faith? Faith is believing God and acting upon it. This is what Abraham did. God had shown that he could be trusted, so Abraham believed God and acted, even though he could not understand the solution to the difficulty." Steve |
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2 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | bibleman12 | 214966 | ||
Hi Steve, Thank you for your response. I have Barnes commentary and I read the part that you mentioned above. "But the moral difficulty of human sacrifice is not so removed... Without the divine command, it is needless to say that it was not lawful for Abraham to slay his son." So am I to understand that Barnes is saying that since God commanded it, then God who is over all of creation, it cannot be unlawful. And if God did NOT command it then of course it would still be unlawful? Well that being the case it seems that Barnes and you are saying that "if" God in fact is telling my friend to kill his family members then it is OK or lawful. Is that correct? |
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3 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | stjohn | 214967 | ||
God is in fact not telling your so-called friend to kill anyone. So your question is completely irrelevant, calls for speculation, and is in fact, inappropriate for this forum, which is solely intended for Bible study, nor is it appropriate for any other form of serious Bible study. I don't know what your motivation is, nor do care, but will you please put an end to this ridiculous line of questions? As I have said before, sir, if your so-called fried has said that he is hearing from God that he should kill, then it is my sincere opinion that he should seek professional help. As for you, sir, if you do not see the logic of the answers given to you. I would suggest to you that you spend more time studying God's word, and pray that He graciously reveal His truth to you, 'before' you go out and try to witness to others. (i.e. if indeed that is what you are doing) Given the nature and timing of your responses, they raise serious doubt that you have had time to try these answers on your so-called friend, or even consider that there may be some truth in them before you responded to them negatively. Questions of this stripe, are not edifying to anyone, if the answers are not humbly accepted with a heart that is willing to be taught. What you have been doing is going around in circles. And now you are bringing into question the very Christian character of those posting to you. Sir, the premiss of the question itself, goes against the nature of God. And until you see that, there is little reason that I can see for anyone to continue this discussion. It seems very much to me, sir, that your questions and notes are an attempt to foster debate. Please desist. |
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4 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | bibleman12 | 214970 | ||
Hi, OK "God is in fact not telling your so-called friend to kill anyone." But since God is no respecter of persons would you say the that: "God did not in fact not tell Abraham to kill anyone." You see the point that seems to be missed here is my friend who I have know for over 25 years is using this passage to justify his sin against his wife and children. He is a good man in many ways, it is just his thinking of late has become extremely erratic and nuts. As a friend I feel obligated to help him if I can. I am a Christian and I beleive the Word of God and no matter what he says my faith will not be shaken. But his is! And I must find a way to show him that God is NOT unjust and that Genesis 22 and James 1 can be reconciled. I am very sorry I have not been able to communicate it well in that a number of you are seeming to pile on me and trying to drive me from this board. Someone who visits this board told me that you were all very polite and very understanding. I am beginning to think he was wrong. |
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5 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | stjohn | 214971 | ||
Dear bibleman, Perhaps you thought he was wrong before you came here? And it has become quite obvious to me at least, form your own admission that, you are indeed trying to bait us. This is indeed not welcome, You, by the way, are welcome, as long as we can have a serious study of the Bible, without calling into question God's character, God's sovereignty, or God's inability to sin in any way. If you cannot accept this, then, yes, I'm sorry to say, perhaps you are not welcome. I am sorry you are having trouble with your friend, if indeed you have such a friend, a fact in witch by the way, I am very skeptical. But I will repeat, this is not the place for such a discussion. Your so-called friend is in no way responsible for his thoughts or actions if he is having these delusions, and you are not 'being' responsible, if you do not try to get your friend some psychiatric help, which this forum is in no way equipped to do, nor is it the intention of our gracious host, the Lockman Foundation. If you think that is being unfriendly or unchristian, I'm sorry, I cant help the way you think or feel. But I can tell you this my friend, this place is different, and it is different from any other that I have been or even heard of, and we here try very hard to keep it that way. I have come to know and love the regulars here in a way that truly wonderful, and they are all very dear to me, and it is my sincere desire and prayer, that you could come to that place in your walk as well. But, yes, unfortunately, sometimes we deal with people quite shortly, simply because we don't have the format or means to deal with questions that do not edify the forum in general. Please understand, we have a responsibly to all that come here, not just the errant individual. It is a shame indeed that we have to sometimes just ask people to knock it off, for the good of the many. Questions of this nature, are not helpful to those who are just learning to know and trust God, so please, don't think we are saying these things to mean to you, we are not. It is our sincere prayer that all who come here truly learn to know and love our Lord, and His word. But we cannot give one individual all the rope we would like to. I hope you understand. So, my friend, I ask you again in all Christian love and sincerity, please, stop it. John |
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6 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | bibleman12 | 214973 | ||
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7 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | stjohn | 214974 | ||
bibleman, Did you ever stop to think that we may have the same circle of friends. You said that a friend told you about this place, perhaps that friend, told me, about you? (smile) |
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8 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | bibleman12 | 214981 | ||
Hi John, How does who referred to this forum allow you to call me a liar? |
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9 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | stjohn | 214983 | ||
Well, Leon, first of all, I did not call you a liar. What I said was, 'I have my doubts', and that, 'I am skeptical'. And, given the history that comes in the wake of your entrance, I think that perhaps is fair. Don't you think so, Lion? I did not however, call you a liar, and I would thank you very much, to please stop accusing me of doing so. I also have my doubts that, our heavenly Father is very pleased right about now. :-( |
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10 | Why did God tell Abraham to kill his son | Gen 22:2 | bibleman12 | 214988 | ||
Hi John, You know, I have no desire to communicate at the level you have taken this discussion. Unless you have a Biblical answer then please leave this discussion to those who give respectful responses in a polite manner. There is too much at stake in the life of my friend (whose wife is considering leaving him today) and his family for this kind of non-Christian insults and false accusations. |
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