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1 | help | Luke 11:2 | DocTrinsograce | 149295 | ||
Dear Bows, So, you are saying, in order to be obedient to God's command (1 Thes 5:17) we need experiences that elicit excitement. Do we obey only those commands that elicit an exciting experience? Also, I'm curious about your phrase "listen to what God says back." What about what God has already said -- and validated -- through the Word? These things exciting things you hear: how do you know that the origin in God, rather than your imagination or even a deceiving spirit? In Him, Doc |
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2 | help | Luke 11:2 | Mommapbs | 149298 | ||
Doc - I don't mean to be contrary, and I'm not advocating a specific teachnique, but have you even considered trying to do what Bows44 has suggested? I agree wholeheartedly that He has indeed spoken to us through scripture as well as in His Son Jesus,(Heb 1:1-2) but He continues to speak to each of us today and THAT is indeed exciting - Imagine, the Creator of the universe cares enough about puny man to "speak" words of hope and words of love into our needy souls. This dear one recongizes something is missing in his prayer life - Wouldn't it be more edifying to just suggest that he seek God (just as Bows44 did) rather than to diminish or inhibit the potential of his enjoyment that can accompany an encounter with God. Isn't repentence one kind of response to such an encounter? There is joy in heaven over that - so someone gets excited, wouldn't you say? (Luke 15)I get excited when God speaks to me - we need to be encouragers of one another - to listen for His voice and not limit how or where He chooses to speak to us, yes even through prayer. Blessings, mommapbs |
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3 | help | Luke 11:2 | DocTrinsograce | 149312 | ||
Hi, Momma! I'm always happy to hear from you. I don't think I've ever heard you be contrary! :-) You asked, "have you even considered trying to do what Bows44 has suggested?" Yes, ma'am, I have indeed. My mother was a medium. I was raised to be very much aware of the spirit world. It wasn't simply a matter of belief, it was a very experiential thing as well. It was there that I was taught to "listen to the 'still small voice' of the God to whom the Christ spirit pointed." The voice would explain how, among other things, to grow spiritually, help other people, etc. All very benign and even "Christian" sounding stuff. Most of that garbage ought not to be dignified by the retelling! Suffice it to say that I know first hand how deceitful Satan can be. (Hey, he is even deceitful to himself, believing his own lie!) He mixes the lie with just enough truth to get you to swallow. My second experience with that sort of thing came after I was saved. My upbringing left me in a mess. The Charismatics took me in. (I went from there to Full Gospel then to Four Square, etc.) I'll never forget as I was struggling to understand the Scriptures, one lady preacher told me that I didn't need the Bible because I had the Holy Spirit. Anyway, to make a long story a bit shorter, I discovered the wonders of the Word of God. I must confess, I will never understand you folks who say that looking to the Word of God is "limiting how God chooses to speak to us." Hasn't God specifically chosen the Word to speak to us? "God, Who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son" (Hebrews 1:1-2a) Furthermore, the Bible is not limiting in any way! It isn't a grocery list, assembly instructions, or even an encyclopedia. It is the LIVING Word! No one can ever plumb its depths or know it exhaustively. It is one of the few things in our experience that will endure forever! Of course, best of all, the Word of God is God speaking in an extremely personal and intimate way to me personally! It is far more personal than ANY kind of communication that any of us can experience. It is true, complete, sufficient, and clear. I'll trade a million experiences for the rich treasure of the Word! Now, regarding the question of being "more edifying to just suggest that he seek God rather than to diminish or inhibit the potential of his enjoyment.." Momma, the most edifying thing I can do is point a person to Jesus Christ. That is the only way in which God can be pleased. If a man is cold toward the Lord, then he does not understand what God has done for him in Christ. We frequently comfort and encourage people right into hell. That fellow's only hope is in the salvific work of the Lord. My heartfelt prayer is that this person will come to the Lord! That will be a joyous event indeed! Thank you for asking, sister! In Him, Doc |
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4 | help | Luke 11:2 | Mommapbs | 149328 | ||
Doc - Thanks for the reply, from what you have shared, I appreciate your concern and I understand where you are coming from . . . yet even when reading the Bible can one "hear" what God is saying apart from the indwelling Spirit of Christ? You wrote: "in these last days (God) has spoken unto us BY His Son" NASB: "in these last days (God) has spoken to us IN His Son" Might there be a difference here? IMO, God speaks to us about Himself and about who we are THROUGH Christ, IN Christ and BY Christ! Knowledge of the Holy One does indeed bring understanding. (Prov 8:10) Blessings, mommapbs |
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5 | help | Luke 11:2 | DocTrinsograce | 149335 | ||
Hi, Momma... I'm not sure of the seignificance of the two translations on Hebrews 1:2. Brother Tim would have to speak to that. However, I completely agree that the Word is open to no one without the vitalizing power of the Holy Spirit. I'm also okay with the kind of hearing that you mention. You know me... I tend to worry over the words one chooses... we don't want people to misunderstand. Frankly, it is so exciting that I can turn to the Word of God and KNOW that I have the very words of the Lord Himself! Thank you for your patience, Momma. I know that experiential personal revelation is dear to the heart of some. I also know that people get excited when you question it. But if people can come to the forum and espouse these things, then it must be okay to question them as well. In any case... may God be glorified as we seek to walk close to Him. In Him, Doc |
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6 | help | Luke 11:2 | kalos | 149342 | ||
Doc: People are welcome to come to the forum and espouse anything, IF they can provide Scriptural support for what they espouse. IF NOT, then it's mere speculation masquerading as fact. I do not say anyone in this thread has done such a thing. I'm merely making a general observation. Grace to you, Kalos |
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7 | help | Luke 11:2 | DocTrinsograce | 149344 | ||
Thank you, brother Kalos! That is, of course, the value and -- I have to admit -- the fun of the forum. :-) I hope, also, that folks are praying for one another. None of us, no matter our theological perspective, desire that the exercies of forum participation will not pay eternal dividends. As we sharpen the iron of one another, may the results be that we become better servants of the Lord, that He might be glorified. In Him, Doc |
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8 | help | Luke 11:2 | kalos | 149347 | ||
Doc: I just want to make sure that there is no misunderstanding of my previous post. I agree with you 110 percent when you write: "But if people can come to the forum and espouse these things, then it must be okay to question them as well." Amen to that! When people come to the forum and espouse things, we MUST question them, whether they can support their assertions with Scripture. On the other hand, wouldn't it be dull if we all managed to use sound principles of Bible interpretation? We still wouldn't agree on everything, but hopefully there would be less disagreement. If we did that, we'd have to call this website the StudyBibleForum. As opposed to the StudyBabbleForum. :-) (Not that anyone in this thread is babbling. Again just making a general observation.) Grace to you, Kalos * * * * * * * * * * * * * www.seekfind.org Christian Search Engine The mission of SeekFind.org is to provide God-honoring, Biblically-based, and theologically-sound Christian search engine results in a highly accurate and well-organized format. |
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