Subject: Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? |
Bible Note: Dachande: I think it only fair to you to get information from the actual source on Mormonism, so I will give you quotes and the exact source, so it will not be me giving you my words, but the orignal source. I have rarely spent this much time dialoguing about this, but you have shown respect and been interested enough and I think you deserve the real truth. So here goes joe. The universe is governed by a head god and his council. "the head God called together the Gods and sat in a grand council to bring forth the world....In the begining, the head Gods called a council of the gods; and they came together and concorted a plan to create the world and people it" (Joseph Smith, TEACHINGS OF THE PROPHET JOSEPH SMITH,pp.348-49 God has goddess wives. "This doctrine that there is a Mother in Heaven was affirmed in all plainness by the First Presidency of the Church" ( Bruce R. McComkie, Morman Droctrine, p, 516). God is limited by a physical body. " The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's" (Doctrine and Covenants, 130:22) "If God possess a form, that form is of necessity of definate propprtions, and therefore of limited extention and space. It is impossible for Him to occupy at one time more than one space of such limits" (James E. Talmage, Articles of Faith, p, 43). There are many gods: "In the begining, the head council of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the woorld and people it....In all when I have preached on the subject of the Deity, it has been the plurality of Gods" (Joseph Smith, Founder and First Prophet, History of the Church, vol.6,pp.43). Jesus and Satan are brothers. " The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God-Lucifer. This spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind" (Milton R. Hunter, First Council of Seventy, The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15). Mary was not a virgin. " Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers....Christ was born into the world as the literal Son of this Holy Being; He was born in the same personal. real, and lireral sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father" (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp.547,742). Jesus was married. "Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana of Galilee. We sat it was Jesus who was married. to be brought into relation wwhereby he could see his seed" (orlson Hyde, Apostle, Journal of Disclourses, vol.2,p.82). The Bible is incomplete and has serious translation errors, "Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors--many plain and precious things were deleted, in conseqquence of which error and falsehood poured into the various churches. One of the great heresis of modern Christendom is the unfounded assumption that the Bible contains all of the insspired teachings now extant among men" (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine,pp.82,83). Except for the LDS Church, all churches are false. "I was ansswered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the personage who addressed me said that all theeir creeds were an abomination in his sight; and those professors were all corrupt" (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith 2:19). "This Church is the only true aand living church upon the face of the whole earth" (Doctrine and Covenants, 1:30). "There is no salvation outside of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints" (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol.6,p.670). Joseph Smith was a holy prophet. " I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Niether Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I. The fellowers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the LatterDay Saints never ran away from me yet" (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol.6,pp.408-09). Joe, I can give more quotes from the Mormon Churches own material if you like. I hope you will closely consider that there is a significant discripency in what Mormons say they believe and what is actually what the truth really is. Why not look up what I have quoted, and that way you too will be sure I have quoted it rightly. I f you would rather we can dialogue on any of the points or move on to a new subject. I would never intentialy misslead you. My hope is this will help you and any others who read this. All these quotes come from MORMONISM What You Need To Know, Quick Referrence Guide by Ed Decker Published by Harvest House Publishers, Eugene Organ, 97402 1977 ISBN 1-56507-511-0 by permission. I pray this might help you. Peace. justme |