Subject: Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? |
Bible Note: Justme, thank you the insight You are correct about being side tracked by ANTI statements, and I do not believe you are making ANTI Mormon statements, but just to touch upon some of the Mormon beliefs that I have researched into... I do not say I am an expert of the Mormon doctrine, and I do not make false accusations of your knowledge... just that it is somewhat flawed... I will touch lightly on the topics of which you spoke... The Jesus/Lucifer brother theory is derived from God the Father being the Father of all, and Lucifer was a fallen angel, and Christ the Son of God... so inefect there is case for argument, and the idea would make us ALL brothers and sisters to not only Christ, but the devil as well... when I have asked about this they have replied, "Yes that would be correct." I've never even heard of Joseph Smith being the redeemer, from any Mormon, it has always been "Christ is my redeemer.", Joseph Smith is how ever held in hgih reguard as a prophet, but no more than we would esteme Peter, James, or John... From my understanding, one thing that sets aside the LDS Church as a cult is their unacceptance of the "Trinity" That in, they believe the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are 3 seperate persons who are eternally bound in one purpose... That the Father has a body flesh, and the Son has a body of flesh, but the Holy Ghost does not have a body of flesh... if they believe the Son has a body of flesh, he obviously took his body up again in the ressurection... As far as Mary, they have never told me anything other wise than she being a virgin... Every Mormon I've talked to seems very saddened when I bring up that I've heard they don't believe the Bible... their responce, "The Bible IS the word of the living God, we have the Old Testament, and the New Testament." and then I ask about the Book of Mormon... their responce, "The Book of Mormon is the keystone of our religion, and a man can be brought closer to God by reading it more than any other book, but it is the Book of Mormon, not the Bible, and we do use the Bible." They would normally go on to explain that the Book of Mormon is not to be added into the Bible as a book, but that it is in its own, Another Testament of Jesus Christ... The case of the Book of Mormon changing and being written by Joseph Smith... this I do not know for a surity and will claim nothing... other than they blieve it was Translated by an ancient record which was later taken up into Heaven for preservation... Note, to all whom may read this, please to not turn this into a stomping grounds on the Mormon Church and their doctrine, this is a conversation between Justme and myself, if you wish to inclut your opinions, please feel free, but this is not a debate over Mormonism... Justme, you do have key questions that I will continue to ask... My point in stating these things I know about the LDS Church are to explain my reasoning for avoiding any anti material, but also, being skeptical in asking those not of a certain religion about a certain religion... Too long again... Continued... |