Subject: Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? |
Bible Note: EdB, interesting... From these statements they are, to your understanding, the truthfullness of what Mormons believe... and I am someone who is seaking the fullness of truth as the Bible directs it... I am rather learned in the Mormon understanding of their religion, beacuase I ask them... Justme brought up some doctrine views... so I asked them, and they corrected the errors in understanding... Your post I have also inquired, now keep in mind, I am studying many religions abroad and do not rely one one single members understanding of their doctrine... and from my own learning, I have learned that not all things preached can be understood by our translations... I'll touch first of the word "Eloheim" The word "Eloheim" is derived form the word "Eloi", meaning God. And by adding the word "heim", it renders it Gods. So it is hard to take everything said about another as truth... if you translate the Hebrew into English with an understanding of the Hebrew definition, things change... which is why I will question every religion preaching from the Bible... To mearly say earth got messed up and the Father had to fix it goes against everything they believe... I've heard the "Plan of Salvation" quite a few times... which in short states... this is my rendition, but is completely acreate to their beliefs, how do I know... I simply asked... "Before the world existed we lived in the Heavenly Courts above with our Heavenly Father, and He saw fit that we should take up bodies and become exalted, even as He, that we might have the fullness of joy that our Father has. "Our Heavenly Father called a council in Heaven to determine the plan in which we would inhearit our bodies and salvation. And two arose and spoke saying 'Send me', for one was Heavenly Fathers First Begotten in the Spirit and the other was the Son of the Morning. And the First Begotten said, 'Father send me, and let the glory be thine' and the Son of the Morning said, 'Father send me, and not one soul will be lost, and give me thine glory' "The Father in His infinate wisdom chose the first and chastised the second, and the second became angry and pursuaded many to follow him, and he was cast out of the presence of the Father and became the devil, and his followers his angels, never to be born into the Fathers plan, for they were the Sons of Perdition." Now, to compare what I've said do not ask self proclaimed experts, for obviously they are not, but ask many diferant Mormons, they will kindly answer any questions... they will say I am correct... Now how does that correct the errors of your understanding... First, you do have some truths, but to say earth got messed up undermines their whole religion and God in His infinate wisdom... if God knows all things, so He will establish a means prior to, to insure His desires are met... This is equal to the Mormon belief... And the 1/3 host of Heaven being the blacks, is not true... if the 1/3 host of Heaven cannot be born into the plan how can they be the blacks who were and still being born? Also, the Doctrine of becoming God, as I've read is also slightly missunderstood... I'll define... they teach to like Christ, perfect, as God who is perfect... Now, if they teach we are commanded to be Perfect like God, to be perfect, one must posses the same attributes, knowledge, and capabilites/powers to be Perfect... thus to be perfect like God you must posses His charactoristics... His Godly charactoristics... They teach He is still God The Father and there is no greater... but since He is God and perfect, we must be perfect, thus being God's... To obtain the status of Godhood is not necassarily to God... and Genesis does acknowledge the plurality of "Gods" Gen1:26 "And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness... etc..." Gen3:5 "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as GODS(plural), knowing good and evil." Gen3:22 "And the Lord God said, Behold the man is become as ONE(singular) of US(plural), to know good and evil... etc..." |