Subject: Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? |
Bible Note: I do take all information into heart from outside sources, but I then ask the source dirrectly... As you can see, some where in the history of teaching about the Mormons, you were given flawed information... by either someone who didn't know better, didn't care about the truth, or someone who whole heartedly wanted to warp your view as well as my view... I do believe the Mormons are a good example of a people who are commonly misrepresented... but they are not the only ones and do not get sole credit... I have a close friend who is Cathlic, he questions many aspects of his Church soley based on the Bible and his readings, he checks many translations to determine the "Average" of what the Bible is saying... his newest venture is the subject of the "Trinity", he told me, "There is no Biblical support for it, or against it." He refures back the the Nicene Creed and other such historical times... I also have a good friend who goes to a Bethal Church, she's been there 15 years and told me, "The what what?" when I asked her views of the "Trinity", I then explained the 3 in 1, and 1 in 3... she replied, "No, they're sepperate and that doesn't make any sense." I am not now questioning a doctrine which many have believe for many years and continue to believe... but my point is how many "Christians" truly believe the very own doctrine of the Church they attend? I would reffer back to Christ saying, "Those who do not believe shall be damned." If some teachings have no Biblical support or condemnation, and they defy logic. How are we as men supposed to learn the Divinity of Doctrine? Aswell, Gene Robinson, you quoted him... "Just simply to say that it goes against tradition and the teaching of the church and Scriptures does not necessarily make it wrong." No I will disect this mans statement and give you his "Truth" and "Lie"... "Just simply to say that it goes against tradition and the teaching of the church..." He has a very valid point when making this statement, since there are so many traditions and teachings that change from Church to Church, who's to say he is incorrect in the part of his statement, he is not... But... "...and Scriptures does not necessarily make it wrong." Here he is absolutly incorrect, the Scriptures are the word of God and his law, to go against God's law is a sin, and sin is wrong... He ultimatly shows that he is wise to the ways of the world, but ignorant in the ways of the Lord... I also believe the people who voted this, openly defiant to God, man as a Bishop will share his judgement... and I find there are many people this way when I ask them, some pastors, some congregations, some invididuals... which is why religion is not a hard thing to believe, but to FIND I feel I must be Baptized into a Church, there is no other way of salvation, to simple say I believe is not enough for me, Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Mark was quoting the Savior, so I am quoting the Savior... I note that many will say baptism is not necessary, but Jesus said, "Believe and be baptized." John 3:5 "...Except a man be born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." this testifies further to me that I must be baptized... but I cannot accept a sectarian baptism... "There is one Church, one Baptism, and one God." I do not remember the refferance... if there is one Church, than only that one Church has proper authority to give the one Baptism, under the dirrection of the one God... This is another subject I cannot defy, the Bible says so, and I believe the Bible More insight from your understaning is always appriciated, Joe |