Subject: Show in the Bible once saved always |
Bible Note: If you have said all you will say on this topic, thats fine with me. But I too have one last comment and will not speak further about this at this time. First: Thank you for correcting me about the author of Hebrews, I knew that, but due to my lack of time at the moment I composed that reply, I inserted Paul's name unitentionally. Secondly You stated: "If the Lord has not convinced you that you can have eternal security, through what he has done, then far be it of me to try and convince you" I never said that I didn't have eternal security. I do (present tense) have security. Eternal security from my understanding can only be taken in the present tense. "he that believeth, hath (present tense) eternal life. If you want unconditional eternal security, you can have it. It is in Christ, on a day by day, moment by moment basis. security for the branches depends entirely upon their abiding (remaining connected) with the vine. see John 15 I still believe faith is not a stopping point but merely the starting gate. Lastly: I have many times heard of the "lost rewards, but not salvation" teachings. But I cannot accept that postion from my understanding of scripture. There is more at stake that just rewards Thats why Paul wrote: Rom. 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed] lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Nevetheless it's been nice talking with you. |