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NASB | Hebrews 6:4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Hebrews 6:4 For [it is impossible to restore to repentance] those who have once been enlightened [spiritually] and who have tasted and consciously experienced the heavenly gift and have shared in the Holy Spirit, |
Subject: Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? |
Bible Note: Beja Oh my Jesus, I meant no such barb to you, having truly, as I said, I have not yet had a chance to read the whole "thread" as you call it. I am truly dissapointed about this I really had something constructive to say to you, and not in the way of telling you that you "do not truly believe in once saved, always saved", and not in the way of "getting you to see the truth" either. I am highly dissapointed, I must say by the content of your post here, but not at all in you, or any one else, but that somehow a purely exegetical question asked on the grounds of using critical forms to deduce a satisfying conclusion somehow digressed from your seeming intent into something, I don't know. I truly apologoze to you and anyone I may have inadvertantly offended, I have not as yet read all of the "thread". I simply choose some notes and answers to read and a very few of your repplies to try to see the jist of what got discussed. I have been gone for three days and had not at all seen this until I got back late last night from our annual church retreat. I am sorry myself, again, to see this post, you had very valid grammatical and historical concerns about this text and made it clear in the beginning your intent; that this was not about whether or not you believe the truth, because you do, but that it was about "getting to the heart of the true context", which I wanted to discuss with you today! I may actually have an answer for that! Alas! I will read the whole thread to try and understand what happened. But, I will respect your wishes and leave off posting at all about it with you, and for that matter with anyone else out of respect. I would like you to consider, just so you may know that I meant no barb to you, post number 207418, as to my intent in wanting to post to you. I would also like to know is there some way off line from here we could communicate about this? I also believe the same thing you do about this passage and have a valid Bible study concern for getting the context first in order to try to see what a passage is really talking about, and based on that have one solution for you. I also have another site for you where you could discuss things like this on the level you have been trying to do, where exegesis in an orthodox sense of that term is the point of all discussions. 2 Timothy 2:15 Be diligent to present yourself approved of God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. Ephesians 4:3 Being diligent to preserve the unity of the body in the Spirit in the bond of peace. blessings abound, bowler |