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NASB | Hebrews 6:4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Hebrews 6:4 For [it is impossible to restore to repentance] those who have once been enlightened [spiritually] and who have tasted and consciously experienced the heavenly gift and have shared in the Holy Spirit, |
Subject: Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? |
Bible Note: Hi Beja, You ask for us to help you out by being comprehensive, clear, and precise in our answers, in order to debunk this passage. Then, your statement about what you believe this passage is NOT to mean, seems pretty clear; You wrote --"Now, for somebody like myself who does NOT believe you can loose your salvation. This is a problem verse. Keep in mind that I'm not arguing that this is how the verse must be understood. Quite the contrary, I intend for us to debunk that understanding of it" (sic) But then you say this; --"I'm leaning at the moment to this person described being saved but clearly I'm open to thoughts on it." (sic) It seems to me you cant have it both ways; what you are saying is quite confusing, if you cant lose your salvation, then this passage cannot be talking about a saved person. Can it? Have you actually got an answer for this debunking process, or are you just trying to work through it? My suggestion would be if you have what you believe to be a clear understanding of the problem then you should just put it down in print so we can see it clearly without the confusion of working through it with a mix of differing opinions. That only seems to add to the confusion. I hope you take no offense but your method isen't helping me at all. God bless John |