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NASB | 1 Timothy 2:12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet [in the congregation]. |
Bible Question:
Searcher now I am really confused!!! You were the one who used the text containing Gamaliel's statments. Now you discrediting them? Possibly they need to be because his were words though truly spoken are not necessarily truth. Our Bible contains statments by many who were ungodly and is another example of how we need to study and know who is saying a thing before we us it as a doctrinal truth. Reading back over how this all got started I see that Jirehway was making a very valid point in saying that the "results" of her ministry should stand on their own. Not whether or not God accomplished them through a man or a woman. Only that they were the work of God. Maybe I should clarify what I have meant by "results". (I cannot, of course, speak for Jirehway) I consider results the same as God does. "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." Mark 16:15-18 Jirehway has told us she has been in ministry for over 30 years. If during those 30 years noone had come to believe that God raised Jesus from the dead and confessed Him as Lord, then there could be some concern as to whether or not her ministry is of God. But on the basis of the results not on her gender. |
Bible Answer: Gamaliel's statment was not from a Christian point of view ... but a Jewish. If the Bible records something that someone says - is what the person, except for our God, said inspired? If Jirehway during 30 years, no one came to Christ, I would not discount her ministry. Jeremiah and others have seen ZERO people repent. Cults like Jim jones, LDS and Watchtower Society have great numbers and make claims that seem to be Christian ... but are not. This is my point about results - it is not (just) the numbers, because they can be misleading. One final thought (I write with tears) ... Do you know the results of the five missionaries: Ed McCully, Pete Fleming, Roger Youderian, Nate Saint, and Jim Elliot? Not only did they see ZERO people come to the Lord ... they were all killed. However, the result of their deaths may have been the biggest impact on missions since Saul. Also, the Huaorani people have changed. I was a four-year-old MK in Japan on January 8, 1956, when they went see their Lord. |