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NASB | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord! [John 14:3; 1 Cor 15:52; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil 1:23; Col 3:4] |
Subject: Is the rapture biblically supported? |
Bible Note: Hi Janae, 2 Thessalonians 2 1 ¶ And, brothers, we entreat you, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and of our gathering together to Him, 2 for you not to be quickly shaken in the mind, nor to be disturbed, neither through a spirit, nor through speech, nor through letter, as through us, as if the Day of Christ has come. 3 ¶ Do not let anyone deceive you in any way, because that Day will not come unless first comes the falling away, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, (Jay P. Green Literal Version) To my reading, the Thessalonian people were thinking that the Day of Christ had come. Paul say no, first must be the "apostasia", falling away, or departure, and also the man of sin to be revealed. These are prerequisite prophecies to the Day of Christ, which I understand to be the Day of the Lord, not prerequisite to the rapture. I beleive that the rapture is the "apostasia", which must come before the Day of the Lord. Since when did the Church not experience spiritual falling away? This is a very divisive topic, most unfortunately. I encourage you most strongly to study this issue for youself, without any preconceptions, and check every referrence others offer to prove their sides. Myself, I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, although not in the same way as my church taught and still teaches. There are very good points to be made by the pre-wrath view, addressing issues that are problematic with the traditional pre-trib view, however, the question is "when does the wrath of God begin?". I believe it begins at the very beginning of the tribulation as the Day comes as a sudden destruction, as a thief in the night. (see 2nd Peter). I have done much personal study of this issue, and have far too many notes and scriptures to post on this forum, however, if you wish to review my studies, you may contact me via email (see my profile). The Bible does teach Jesus' immanent return. Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. 33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. 34 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. 35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: 36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. 37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." Count the days from the abomination that causes desolation, and you will know when Jesus' "shining forth", His coming in glory, will be. What is this coming, which Jesus does not say "watch for the antichrist" or "watch for the tribulation", but rather "watch for the Son of Man"? Keep looking up! Love in Christ, Mark |