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NASB | Ephesians 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 1:4 just as [in His love] He chose us in Christ [actually selected us for Himself as His own] before the foundation of the world, so that we would be holy [that is, consecrated, set apart for Him, purpose-driven] and blameless in His sight. In love |
Subject: Predestination |
Bible Note: Great, Tim. I was REALLY trying to stay out of it this time, but now you added a new angle! :) Do you hold that Romans 11:2 is referring to the entiretly of the Israelite race? It seems that from looking down we see it may be referring to a subset of the physical descendents of Jacob: "In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's gracious choice." --Romans 11:5 and "What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were hardened" --Romans 11:7 It seems that we have a distinction made here between those Israelites who were hardened, and those who were graciously chosen and obtained the grace. Even the OT reference that Paul makes is to the 7000 who had not bowed the knee to Baal, a subset of the entire nation. So I guess the question is how you connect those whom God foreknew in Romans 11 to all the offspring of Jacob rather than the "children of the promise" (Galatians 3:29) among the descendents of Jacob? Always a pleasure! --Joe! |