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NASB | Ephesians 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 1:4 just as [in His love] He chose us in Christ [actually selected us for Himself as His own] before the foundation of the world, so that we would be holy [that is, consecrated, set apart for Him, purpose-driven] and blameless in His sight. In love |
Subject: Predestination |
Bible Note: You wrote: 'I know that a man is going to be affected by other teachings he has heard, but you can still make a conscience effort when you approach scripture to say "God I want to see things clearly, if I am having a wrong understanding becuase I have heard things said a certain way and it is not in the bible let me see that and agree with your word instead."' Yes, but again you are overlooking the fact that our minds are stained by sin, and the Holy Spirit works through the preaching of His Word as well. What do you say to an individual who goes off on her own with sincere efforts to hear what the Spirit says, and comes back with interpretations that contradict your sincerely sought-after views? Did the Holy Spirit speak to her or to you? Or does He contradict Himself? This is why God has constantly worked both in the individual believer and collectively within His church. If your view is in left field compared with historic Christianity (2000 years of millions of people of God searching the Scriptures and seeking to maintain and pass on the traditions of the apostles), then chances are that you are the one in error. You wrote: "Can it be that a person reading the Bible today with that heart might see something that is not taught in Bible School?" Depends on what Bible school. :) And again, is that thing that we see an accurate interpretation. Simply feeling with all your heart that God told you something does not mean that it was really God telling you something. Do you really think that, after 2000 years of the church, you are going to spot something that has been completely overlooked by ALL of those who have come before? Something "NEW" is generally something "not-so-new" and quite often "error" that has been previously addressed in Church history. Lastly, you wrote: "And the flock is hungry for this. About the last thing the flock wants or needs is to hear Calvinism. :)" So now you are speaking for the what the flock wants and needs? Please. I seriously doubt you have taken a poll of every evangelical Christian, explained Calvinism accurately (which I would bet a significant sum that you have wrong yourself), and asked them is they want or need that. The fact is that Biblical TRUTH is such a scarce commodity on this overstimulated religious landscape that that could very well be considered the "fresh" word that people have not heard and experienced! --Joe! |