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NASB | 2 Corinthians 1:5 For just as the sufferings of Christ are ours in abundance, so also our comfort is abundant through Christ. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Corinthians 1:5 For just as Christ's sufferings are ours in abundance [as they overflow to His followers], so also our comfort [our reassurance, our encouragement, our consolation] is abundant through Christ [it is truly more than enough to endure what we must]. |
Subject: 2 Corinthians- What is 'suffering' |
Bible Note: "I believe healing is provided through the atonement as stated in Isaiah 53 for all who receive by faith, just as salvation is received by faith in Jesus." I am aware that you believe it. The question remains whether you have good reason to do so. "You call it heresy because it disagrees with 'traditional orthodox teaching'." I don't believe I have used the term "heresy." I do most definitely hold it to be error... "If scripture disagrees with traditional orthodox teaching-so be it." Indeed. But that is a tall order to suggest that 1900 years of the church didn't manage to see what you do so "clearly." While it is not 100 percent impossible for the church to be so wrong for so long, it is so highly unlikely that one must very soberly re-examine one's views before making such a pronouncement. "Religious leaders and then the dark ages of hidden "Word" kept truth suppressed." That is a pretty sweeping (over)generalization of church history. Have you ever studied it in detail? "This truth came back out before television. Television is an instrument for reaching many...Or do you view TV as an instrument of the devil? Or are you simply 'profiling' WOF believers as believers who do not go to church? Most go to church AND study via TV." I was not referring to fans of television per se, but rather to those who live in their comfortable existences and dare to suggest that missionaries who died of illness while bringing the light of Christ to the darkest parts of the world simply died from a "lack of faith" or a "lack of understanding." What do you think of these heroes of the faith? Were they faithless or just unenlightened? --Joe! |