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NASB | Romans 8:13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:13 for if you are living according to the [impulses of the] flesh, you are going to die. But if [you are living] by the [power of the Holy] Spirit you are habitually putting to death the sinful deeds of the body, you will [really] live forever. |
Subject: filled with holy spirit? |
Bible Note: As petty a reply as this is, you have now posted this twice, and I must respond. On the day that the 120 were filled with the Spirit, they spoke in tongues. Whether the tongues were known languages (as even modern tongue-speaking has been verified to be on occasion) or not doth not matter. The same language is used in 2:4 as in 10:46 (with the omission of "other") and 19:6 (again with "other" omitted. Also, speaking in tongues and prophesying are combined in the last verse, and they are often paired...but that is neither here nor there. *pause* Oh, but then it is true that the 3,000 are not said to have spoken in tongues, which I think was your point. Also, ... the many daily added to their number is very nearly a part of the first conversion (look to verse 47, not 27). Nonetheless, do not try to maintain that the 120 did not speak with tongues in the same manner as the other two instances (and...ponder the significance of "tongues of fire" in verse 3...) However, I do agree with you that speaking in tongues is not THE preliminary sign of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Rather, (and here I no longer try to argue a point, but to bring forth a (budding) idea)a different sign, of which tongues is sometimes a part, seems to accompany the Holy Spirit's indwelling, and not only in those filled. - See, for example, Acts 2:11 we hear them in our tongues speaking of (proclaiming, declaring, confessing) the mighty deeds of God. 2:46-47 ...taking their meals together with gladness and simplicity of heart, praising God and having favour with all the people. 4:4 it does not occur, but another mention of filled with the Spirit comes in v8, in which the Spirit moves Peter to testify of Christ before the rulers and elders. 8:14-17 Here the focus is on Simon, and not on the giving of the Spirit, thus the omission of what had already been described is not at all surprising. 8:39 ...and the eunuch no longer saw him, for he was going on his way rejoicing 9:5-20 Saul is never specifically said to have received the Spirit, nor is any description (of which there have already been many), however, it is clear that he has received Him by verse 20, since there he begins to proclaim Jesus in the Synagogues (no man confesses the name of Christ except by the Spirit of Christ... paraphrase). 10:38 Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power. - note that the prophets of the OT and Christ Himself did receive of the Holy Spirit, and He fell even upon Saul. 10:46 hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God 16:14-15 No mention is made of the Holy Spirit in this passage (unless "baptized" stands for both water and spirit). 16:31-34 Again no Holy Spirit mentioned (with the same caveat) but: ... and rejoiced greatly with his whole household, having believed in God (having accepted the Word of God to be true). There is a conversion experience in 17:4, though few details are given. Again, a conversion in 7:12. (Did you search for "baptize" in Acts or something?) 19:5-7 The Holy Spirit came upon them through the laying on of hands, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. Now. Someone elsewhere said that, since this is omitted in the other conversions, it should not be assumed that it was present there. Yes. And No. We agree that two Fillings brought the speaking with tongues. Many others brought prophesying (testifying of Christ... the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy, or some such thing). And, the first occurrence of tongue-speaking involved speaking of the mighty acts of God. ... I see a VERY close parallel between the two. Speaking in tongues and Prophesying are, not one and the same, but one and different... from the same Spirit, but not just that. Prophecy is to the believer (or the unbeliever... Paul says both in the same passage), or rather, what I meant, Prophecy is to the one who understands the basics of what you are saying (at the very least, the language you speak). Tongues are for those who have no common point of reference with you. Er, mostly just a thought, a very young thought. Now, consider, along with many other passages, v9:31, the comfort of the Holy Spirit. This is apparently the Greek paraklesis... which includes the meaning of consolation, exhortation, etc. These are the functions of all the gifts of the Spirit, even those of healing and helps. I need to stop now, even though only a quarter, if that, was written. |