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NASB | John 7:38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, 'From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.'" |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 7:38 "He who believes in Me [who adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Me], as the Scripture has said, 'From his innermost being will flow continually rivers of living water.'" [Is 58:11; John 4:14] |
Subject: When does the Baptism occur? |
Bible Note: Hi CDBJ, Thanks for your work in expressing the way you see it. It is the way that most would see it I would suppose. However, I do not see the idea of "control" in the working of the Holy Spirit. You yourself have said in your post of 04-15-02 11:02am concerning Ephesian 4:5,6 above, that "...the only thing that all believers can be unified about is something that they have no control over, needless to say, because it is done for them." You were talking about the indwelling of the Holy Spirit at the point of salvation. That is the one baptism. Now let's talk about the filling of the holy spirit. We have been commanded "Be filled with the *holy *spirit." Here is where it "is a process that involves the action of the will of each believer,..."as you have said. It is not a process where we tell God that we have repented of our sins, so go ahead and fill us up again if You will, please, God. Rather, it is something that we do in our freedom in Christ; learn what is pleasing to Him and doing it. This is something that we do with our minds and with our hearts as we obey Him. Romans 7:22, "For I joyfully concur with the law of (God) in the inner man,..." Romans 8:2, "For the law of the *spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and of death." Romans 8:10, "And if (Christ) is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit [sic] is life because of righteousness." 1 Peter 4:6, "For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live in the *Spirit according to the will of God." Ephesians 5:18-20 to me shows how being filled with the word of God, knowing the psalms and combining spiritual words with spiritual thoughts in song are actually being equated with being filled with the holy spirit. And yes, giving thanks for every gift and for all things to our triune God. From the heart, Ray |