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NASB | John 6:37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 6:37 "All that My Father gives Me will come to Me; and the one who comes to Me I will most certainly not cast out [I will never, never reject anyone who follows Me]. |
Subject: What is eternal life? What is saved? |
Bible Note: Kin, I have problems with your analogy. In comparing the relationship of a regenerate child of God to the marriage bond between husband and wife, you say, "I can't force my wife to stay with me if she ever wanted to walk away." That's perfectly true, of course, but she nonetheless remains your wife, though estranged, until legal divorce is effected..... But doesn't the analogy somehow break down here, unless we're willing to accept the premise that God "divorces" those whose blood Jesus the Christ shed for their redemption? And would not one be hard pressed to support that premise by Scripture?...... Would it not be more scripturally accurate to use the analogy of father and son, as Jesus did in Luke 15, the parable of the lost, or prodigal, son? The son, although he wandered far from his father's care and acted in a manner that could hardly be said to bring honor to his father, remained the son. The fellowship was broken awhile, but the relationship remained: the son was still the son and his father still his father. Whether the son returned to his father's household or stayed on in the far-off country feeding the pigs for the rest of his life is a moot issue when it comes to who his father was. He was born as a son of his father into his father's household. That act, of being born a son, seals for all eternity his relationship as son in that household. Whatever the son does with his life after that does not and cannot change his son-ship with his father..... When we experience the new birth into God's kingdom that Christ makes possible by what He did on the cross, we are in a spiritual, but very real, sense the children of God, from that moment on, for all eternity. That is what is meant by the eternal security of the believer. Christ shed His blood on Golgotha's tree, once and for all, as redemption for our sins -- all of them -- past, present, and future...... To propose a doctrine that holds to the idea that salvation is a day-by-day thing, dependent upon how much and how often we sin, and that God must "save" us over and over is to say that Jesus must be crucified over and over..... Frankly, I've never heard of, and find it most difficult to believe, a single example wherein a truly redeemed child of God who said to God, "Look, I've changed my mind. I don't want your salvation. I want to die and go to a devil's hell and live with the devil and his angels for all eternity." Have you? --Hank |