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NASB | John 6:37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 6:37 "All that My Father gives Me will come to Me; and the one who comes to Me I will most certainly not cast out [I will never, never reject anyone who follows Me]. |
Subject: What is eternal life? What is saved? |
Bible Note: Hank, Thank you for your response. A couple of things I have to clear up. One is that I dont believe salvation is based on the good works you do. My point is that sin, though forgiven, still can harden the heart of the believer if there is not an active part on the part of the christian to repent of it. Can a christian be sexually immoral? 1 Cor. 5 makes that clear. Can a christian continue to be immoral and live for God? His house is divided, he will fall! Consider these passages in Heb. 6 and Heb. 10. It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6 if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people." 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God Jesus talks about the same issue in John 15. "I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. 5 "I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned I never said that Jesus takes back his salvation every time we sin. But I hope I made it clearer that if we don't repent and actively try to change the things in our lives that cause us to sin, we will harden our hearts towards God and turn away from him, and lose our salvation. About Luke 15. Your explaination of this passage is entirerly speculation. The passage does't say that the "son will remain a son no matter what; he is forever a son; etc." But it does say in the passage below that the son "was DEAD and is ALIVE AGAIN, he was LOST and is FOUND." If the son never returned to the father (repentence) he would have remained "dead" and "lost". An explanation of this scripture outside of what it clearly says is not something I want to hang my coat on. But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!' 31 "My son, the father said, you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found." Please respond to the scriptures I showed you and give me your point of view. I look foward to hearing from you. This is good for my study! -Kin |