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NASB | John 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:13 "No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven]. |
Subject: How does John 3:13 fit with Genesis 5:24 |
Bible Note: Greeting, Makarios, It's good to know others are following this discussion. I think it's a very important one and hope others will join in. Of course, it would be nice if someone else besides me could see the contradictions in Tim's line of reasoning, as well as the liberties taken with God's word. We (Christians) have a tendency to draw conclusions from passages what is simply not written. Instead of saying, as Jesus did, "It is written," we say "It says..." and proceed to inject our opinions and presumptions into the passages we quote. I would be interested to know what you think of what I said about God not trying to mislead us and why he wouldn't use even "poetic" language to imply other than what he wants us to understand. To anyone else out there folowing this thread who sees the HONESTY in the way I deal with the scriptures, it would be nice to get your input also. Even if you basically disagree with me, what I'm seeking is direct engagement of my arguments - that is, if I make a point, don't answer a related but TANGENTIAL point. STAY ON THE SUBJECT! And by all means, give me the scriptures WITHOUT THE FILLERS! Be careful with semantics - scrutinize every word. Read 2 Timothy - especially the passages about sound doctrine, and the time when not many would endure it! I believe that time is NOW. |