Prior Book | Prior Chapter | Prior Verse | Next Verse | Next Chapter | Next Book | Viewing NASB and Amplified 2015 | |
NASB | John 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:13 "No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven]. |
Subject: How does John 3:13 fit with Genesis 5:24 |
Bible Note: Greetings RoaringLamb! I apologize if my post was not as clear as it ought to have been my friend. I work nights, so when I post in the morning I am usually pretty tired. So, allow me to back up a bit. Here is my understanding. 1) Sleep is a methaphor for death, not a literal description. It is based upon how the body 'appears'. 2) My contention is that v. 14 refers to the spirits of those who died coming back with Jesus when He returns, while v. 17 refers to their bodies being raised. So, I will ask you again my friend: Who or what comes back with Jesus in v. 14? It can't refer to the bodies, because they are not raised until v. 17. Finally, as far as the poetic nature of the two verses you cited goes, you did mention 'poetic' in your post. I believe that we would both admit that 'poetry' is to be taken differently than narrative. For instance, when Jesus said that He was the bread of life, He did not mean for us to think that He was a giant bag of Wonder bread! :-) Scripture uses symbolic language many times. My contention is that 'sleep' is best understood in this way, and that all of the references which speak of the dead being alert and aware are literal. So, instead of simply telling me where I am wrong, how about dealing with some of these verses that you keep promising to deal with! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |