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Subject: How does John 3:13 fit with Genesis 5:24 |
Bible Note: Greetings Roaring Lamb! Emmaus is currently taking a sabbatical, so he may not respond. So, may I? I am familiar with the doctrine of soul sleep. However, most believe that the term 'sleep' is simply a euphemism for death, and not a literal description of the a person's spirit after death. There are many Scriptural indications that the dead are aware after death. 1) Lazarus and the Rich man: Luke 16:19-31 clear details an account where the dead are very much aware and active after death. I know the typical response is that this is a parable, but the text never calls it a parable. And, as you stated in your post, "We should avoid speculation as we edify one another". So, we cannot call something a parable which Scripture does not call a parable. 2) In Mt. 17:, the Disciples see Moses and Elijah on the Mount of Transfiguration. Apparently, they were very much 'awake'. :-) 3) In the OT, the spirit of Samuel appears to Saul. Again, very much awake. 4) In Rev. 6:9, the souls of the martyred cry out for vengence. This is very difficult to do if one is not aware and awake! 5) In 2 Cor. 5:1-9, Paul presents the truth that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. As far as I am concerned, the Scriptural evidence is best understood in seeing 'sleep' as nothing mroe than a euphemism for death, much like we say 'passed away' today. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |