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NASB | John 12:32 "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 12:32 "And I, if and when I am lifted up from the earth [on the cross], will draw all people to Myself [Gentiles, as well as Jews]." |
Subject: Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? |
Bible Note: Searcher, Even you use resources to assist you in your study of scripture. Even you seek greek translations to understand the meanings and context of what was said. And again for you to contend that because I use the same such resources from time to time means that I trust the resource and not the Word, only substantiates my contention that you do not know anything about me, you are not out to prove the word, you are out to prove someone to be wrong and YOU right. (how sad) Maybe you should go back and research your post to me specifically, on more than one occassion you have indeed deemed me against Christ and in subtle terms a false prophet. Which is a blatant abuse of your position, because if you say it, there are those who believe it. Your last sentence shows your intent: "There have been views I have changed, after a careful study of Scripture." Searcher I believe that prayer and the power of God's Spirit changes things. (we are just different and there is nothing wrong with that, let it be) I do not think that anyone studied the scripture in the thread any harder than I did. I searchered every version of scripture and also as you can see in my post the language context. And yes I did read commentary, and study notes. (that is pretty thorough) They served to bolster my own understanding and original belief. Even you said that I should consult an expert in Judiasm (a Rabbi). Truly God Gifted the experts, such as Matthew Henry, Coffman, Darby ...etc. And though I do not always see, their viewpoints, I respect and understand that God has given them a gift, Wisdom. Yet my modus operandi is to lean to God for understanding, not just in studying the Word, but in prayer... which to me is the pivital part of understanding. (having a little talk with God) I am not here to correct anyone's thinking, or to compel anyone to do as I say or do. That is the work of the Spirit. I can only state my belief and understanding. Some of my opinions have been expanded, and I have been enlightened and blessed with a higher understanding by the posts of many others on the forum, who are blessed with Wisdom and the gift of Teaching. You may feel that I have misused the scriptures on various occassions and that is truly your right. Yet I feel you misuse your seniority on this forum, by accusing me continuously of actions and intentions that are bold lies. And to what end, what purpose? You have not changed my views and that is not your job, one can only post his understanding of the scripture, and hopefully site comparable scriptures and the expert resources to show why they understand as they do. And if love and wisdom is imparted someone may be enlightened. If it is rejected, why have a hissy. To consistently try to compel someone to think as you'd like, is not the purpose of this forum. There is freedom in Christ, He never used the bully-pulpit. Now to Him that is able to keep us, let everything be to His glory. Peace to you, Kathy |