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NASB | Ecclesiastes 6:10 ¶ Whatever exists has already been named, and it is known what man is; for he cannot dispute with him who is stronger than he is. |
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Subject: Predestination |
Bible Note: Greetings, Tim, (Continuation of reply – Part 3) Tim Moran also wrote: “Romans 5:18 – ‘Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.’" My reply: This is yet another example where you have hacked an individual verse out of its context, totally ignored the remainder of Chapter Five of Romans and you have treated the remainder of the Letter to the Romans and the Scriptures as a whole as though it either doesn’t exist or is of no significance whatsoever. Ask yourself this: Does your isolationist treatment of the Scriptures display the reverence and respect due to the Scriptures? It obviously does not. When you examine the preceding verse of Romans 5:17 – which you omitted to recognise, you will see that the people in Romans 5:18b to whom the free gift actually comes upon are unto justification of life are identified in Romans 5:17 as those who "receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness," and who thus "reign in life.” Since Romans 5:1 tells us that justification is only through faith, and Romans 3:25-26 tell us that salvation is reserved for those who have saving Faith in Christ and for no others than these, it is therefore obvious that the term “all men” in Romans 5:18b refers to all those who have saving Faith in Christ and to no others than these, which is confirmed by John 3:16 which states that al who do not have saving Faith in Christ will perish. See also Gospel of John 3:36. Gospel of John 3:36 – “He who believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that does not believe on the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him.” Tim Moran also wrote: “Yet, there is not a single verse of Scripture which states that Christ did not die for all.” My reply: Then it’s evident that you need to study the Scriptures – all the Scriptures - much more thoroughly. Begin by considering Gospel of John 10:11 in the context of John chapter 10 - “I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep.” Also reflect on Gospel of John 10:26 in the context of John chapter 10 – “But you do not believe because you are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.” Tim Moran also wrote: Yet, inferences are made from Scripture to support that Christ did not die for all, inferences which are not justified by the texts. For instance, look at the verses used in your post to support the view that " it was always the will of GOD that they should be excluded from salvation." They simply do not say any such thing. Here are the complete texts of the verses: 1) Revelation 20:15 - "If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." Nothing is said in this verse about God's eternal will for these individuals.” My reply: It’s obvious from Revelation 21:8 that the lake of fire which GOD has reserved for the type of people described in that verse is everlasting in duration, as evidenced by the term “second death.” Try to avoid jumping to off-the-cuff conclusions. Instead, spend much more time in carefully reflecting on each verse, and the context of each verse, and then consider each individual verse in the context of all the Scriptures. Then and only then, form your conclusion. Never impose your own personal opinions on the Scriptures but allow the Scriptures to speak for themselves by the Holy Spirit of God because this is how God has designed His Scriptures to operate. Tim Moran wrote: 2) Matthew 25:41 - "‘‘Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."" Again, no mention of God's eternal will for these individuals.” My reply: I'm surprised that you haven’t realised what is very obvious; i.e. that the phrase “Eternal Fire” clearly refers to an eternal and therefore everlasting punishment for all those rejected by the Son of Man i.e. Christ. Thus, God’s eternal will for all such people is blatantly obvious. Tim Moran: 3) Revelation 21:8 - "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." Again, no mention of God's eternal will for these individuals.” My reply: The term ”second death” clearly emphasises the enduring nature of the punishment to which GOD condemns all who do not repent and believe on Christ and who perish in unbelief. Revelation 21:8 is also conclusive proof that the superstitious theories of “universal atonement” and “universal salvation” are denied by GOD in His Scriptures. Final comments to follow in Part 4 of 4/ Regards, Michael |