Subject: Is there middle ground? |
Bible Note: Lionstrong your assuming one side is wrong and one is right. Could it be they are equally wrong and the correct understanding is something else? I think I know just about every verse the Calvinist use and I also know just about every verse Arminians use. If you compare them one for one you come out with a tie unless you are predisposed to read into either something that is not there. Then if you take the verses used to prove predestination and those that show free will or choice, you again come out for all intents and purposes tied. I submit to that proves something is wrong. As you said both can't be right, and we know the Bible does not contradict itself therefore we must be doing something wrong. What could that be? Are we tainting our reading by with prejudiced and presumed ideas? Before you answer think about it. Men of equal intelligence, equal sincerity, equal hunger for the truth have debated this topic for over 500 years. Yet they reach no satisfactory answer. Why? I contend they have been trying to prove their point rather than find the real answer. I can listen to the arguments of the Calvinist and see their point, however if I remove their bias, their slant to scripture then I can also read the scripture to mean something entirely different. I can then listen to the arguments of the Arminians and see their point. And again if I remove their bias and slant I can see an entirely different reading to scripture. Is Mr. Prince so far off? No, I think not. He is not asking for or suggesting a compromise. He is saying there has to be true doctrine that answers each sides questions, which neither Calvinism nor Arminianism presently does. Therefore there has to be another answer. Lionstrong I thought Derek Prince spoke with wisdom you don’t. Your sure what he said was an attempt to weaken or compromise doctrine. I see him saying there has to be an answer that responds or addresses each side of this debate with a non changing, read nothing into it answer. You see him saying let’s agree to disagree and reach a compromise. I think the fact that we both see Derek Prince saying something different says one of us read what he said with a preconceived notion. Maybe that is how we are reading the scriptures also. |