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NASB | 1 Kings 11:3 He had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Kings 11:3 He had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away [from God]. |
Subject: Does God endorse polygamy? |
Bible Note: Mark, This is now becoming too circular. You rely on what you suppose was the meaning contained in Genesis to help define what Jesus is saying in Matthew, and they you look back to Genesis with the support of Jesus remarks, which you essentially created a meaning for by importing Genesis into Matthew. The proof is simple. FIRST God has Genesis written, and in it, he says that a man and woman become one flesh. You assume that "One Flesh" is monogamy, yet later God says in his law, using precisely the same word for wife that he does in Genesis, that a man can have two. Since you are "one flesh" with your wife, and since you can have two, YOU MUST BE ONE FLESH WITH BOTH. This completely and finally explodes any notion WHATSOEVER that the condition known as "One Flesh" contains any information about monogamy, other than the fact that people who are in a monogamy are "One Flesh". It also says clearly that people who are in a Polygyny are "One Flesh". Thus nothing about the condition which is said to exist between married persons necessarily implies monogamy. Next, the Bible does not tell us that Joseph DIDN'T have other wives, just as it doesn't tell us that one of Joash's wives DIED. Yet you wrangle it out of the passage so as to avoid the most obvious of meanings. Joash got his two wives nearly or exactly at the same time. Scriptural precident here. Arranged marriages were first marriages for men. We have the example of David deciding to take his other wives, though Michal was arranged for him. Abigail he merely acquired. NORMALLY, Joash would have taken his first wife by arrangement of others, the "wife of his youth", his second, had they not been arranged for him by others, on his own, yet it said that Joash arranged for both. This suggests not thinly, but strongly that they were given to him at the same time. You say that I am making assumptions where scripture says nothing in a context that nearly all would agree with me on, namely that the less likely meaning you suggest is the actual meaning, yet when I point out that no mention exists of Joseph NOT having other wives, that's obviously because he did not. I'm willing to look at it that way, but you reverse field on me in your treatment of Joash's situation, saying that concurrent language is not necessarily concurrent, therefore not concurrent, and that though no mention is made of a young man's first wife dying, and being replace, that must have been what happened. Hugh |